"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Been married for 3 months, wife does not want to consumate marriage

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Hello,

I recently got married and took a honeymoon
with my wife.

During our honeymoon, my wife made sure that
we had two separate beds, and each night of the
honeymoon, we slept on separate beds.

I asked her why she would do this, and her response
is "is that all you think about?" and she would get upset.
For the sake of not arguing, I agreed to this ordeal.

Some background, I have been a virgin before
I got married, and now, I am still a virgin, 3 months
after my marriage.

My wife, does not want to consummate the marriage.
3 months later, we have moved into a house together
and now, living together, and we still sleep on separate
beds.

I do not want to bring this up with
the wife again, or she will get upset.

What should I do?

What can I do?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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LOL...Did you have an arranged marriage where there was little communication before the marriage.

Reeks of troll-dom.
 

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mangotot said:
LOL...Did you have an arranged marriage where there was little communication before the marriage.

Reeks of troll-dom.
we dated first, and then decided to get married
 

mangotot

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norm said:
we dated first, and then decided to get married
I'd say this is a post by a guy for laughs. Or by a girl for whatever reason.

Too many holes in the story.

sex not discussed when dating.

Sorry - I don't buy it.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I am officially in troll town. The only other "green" guy is Sideways :crackup:
 

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well if you are serious...

if you are in a sexless marriage in that she won't ever have sex with you, i suggest you get a divorce. or if you must stay with her (for whatever reason), you should cheat on her.

you, of course, reasonably want to have a marraige with a wife who you have sex with.
 

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Porn all day, son, porn all day!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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When we were dating, we discussed saving ourselves until marriage.
I was a virgin a time and I still am a virgin. I had no problem with that. But, I became very suspicious on our wedding night when she told me she wanted to sleep in separate beds.

She gets really upset whenever I bring it up and I am afraid I could lose her if I bring it up again. Maybe there could be a nice way to bring it up without arguing.

She says it is selfish to bring up such nonsense and that I am a bad husband if I bring it up ever again.
 

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As rare as it is, you do once in a long while hear about women that don't believe in pre-marital sex.

I have NEVER heard of a woman that doesn't believe in post-marital sex.

What is there to lose? All you have is a roommate with license to take half your stuff by virtue of a marriage license.

Under most state divorce laws, an unconsummated marriage can be annulled.
 

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Tictac said:
As rare as it is, you do once in a long while hear about women that don't believe in pre-marital sex.

I have NEVER heard of a woman that doesn't believe in post-marital sex.

What is there to lose? All you have is a roommate with license to take half your stuff by virtue of a marriage license.

Under most state divorce laws, an unconsummated marriage can be annulled.
The other thing is that she is in the United States on a temporary work visa. Which makes me suspicious now. Is she only using me a for a green card? It is very unusual for couples not to consummate their marriage, but I also have a close friend who's been married for 12 years, and he is also a virgin, so it might be more common than we think.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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These red posters are getting out of hand.

No human can possibly be so naive.
 

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Should I confront her and tell her unless we start behaving like a normal couple we will get divorced?
 

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Have a talk with her. Ask her why she married you? Tell her that you are disappointed in her as a wife BECAUSE she is not being your wife. Ask her if it is only for papers and you not interesting to her.

Then divorce if nothing changes.


Honestly if you have a perfect woman you would ask anyone for advice, you son married someone else's wife.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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