"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Balling a married woman
- Thread starter sensible juan
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Oh come on, you can't just toss a statement like that out there and just let it hang. Come on, elaborate! I've noticed that there are a lot of misconceptions on the board about what it is to be a DJ, here's an opportunity to shed some light on what it really entails...
It never occurs to me to do anything with married women because the only time I interact with them socially, I have a younger, hotter, more together girl with me who is already willing and sometimes even expresses a preference for all the freaky things. Most of the husbands of these restless women are friends of mine and I wouldn't want to show him the error of his ways in that fashion. I'd rather just show him my success, my life and let him grasp that most of those tenets can be applied to married life as well.
Every girl will f*ck. She may not f*ck me, she may not f*ck you, but she will f*ck. It is up to us to make ourselves a natural selection for her.
I'd look at myself AND next her. Back to the subject though, I agree to the extent of why would you bother with a married women. Goes with the rule, if she cheats on her hubby she'll cheat on you. If all your in it for is a F*ck then hey go for it. If you get shot by the hubby I won't shed a tear for you.
white sox bill
Senior Don Juan
A while back I had posted regarding married woman. Yes I had affair w/one. Make long story short, her hubby stalked me out one night and confronted me while I was walking out of grocery store late PM. I had in my hands 2 bags of groceries,2 gallon milk, I was higher than a kite, dressed in tank top, shorts and sandels. Hardly fighting gear.
He had on long pants,shirt and work boots. He had big advantage. But I outweighed him by a good 35 lbs and was tallerr than him (I'm a ex-competive bodybuilder btw). I merely apoilzed for the thing, he talked his sh*t, and I realized alls he wanted to do was let off steam. He coulda really put the hurt to me, I was so vulnerable.
The moral is beware of jealous husbands. They are in the right when it comes to this crap. They will hurt you no mattter how big and strong you are. A 5'6 150lb'er would kickMike Tyson's a** in a minute! They have God on their side too!
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
But like I said before, I could care less about her cheating. I'm not dating her (she's married), we're just fvck buddies. Why does everybody think you have to date a woman to fvck her?
In my original post i said: "If all your in it for is a F*ck then hey go for it. If you get shot by the hubby I won't shed a tear for you. "Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
But like I said before, I could care less about her cheating. I'm not dating her (she's married), we're just fvck buddies. Why does everybody think you have to date a woman to fvck her?
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Yeah, but in the sentense right before it you said that if she cheats on her husband, she'll cheat on you. So again I ask, why do you guys think that you have to date her? You obviously have an opinion about it or you wouldn't have said it, right?
I should have added that if your dating a married women it's a good bet she'll cheat on you. Why anyone would want to date a married women I don't know. I was essentially agreeing with you that why do you have to date them...I was saying don't expect sympathy when you have an estranged hubby to deal with (not directed at you personally, just a general statment).
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Got'cha
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
sensible juan
Banned
I feel you pappy
cave dweller
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Why are you wasting your time with a dvmn married woman when there is so much single pvssy out there that will fvck your brains out?
Don't come crying to us when her husband and about 4 of his big, nasty, red neck buddies get all drunked up and beat the shvt out of you.
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icecreaman
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Its all about the drama. This may be messed up but there aint no other feeling in the world than knowing that you can screw or get someone else's chic. There are a lot of women in the world that are professionals at this too, they call them "homewreckers".
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
although I've dropped Ms. Married had dropped way down in the rotation.Derek Flint
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I speak from experience from more than one instance.
Trust me, its not worth the headaches and BS that goes along with it.
Plenty of hot, single women out there who are more than willing to give up the kitty.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
cave dweller
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You slipped in there and 'hit that thing'.
You are out of the relationship now---GOOD.
You got lucky this time.
Don't press your luck.
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Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
disciple
Senior Don Juan
I've witnessed both the fun and bad side of it from other people's experiences and I don't think its worth it.
There are just too many unmarried women out there to have to settle for a married one and all the BS that can go along with that situation.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Read the entire thread. I for one, am not settling. I don't know if some guys can only handle going out with one woman at a time or what. It's like forgoing buying a six pack and going to the store to buy a single can at a time.
DonRob
Don Juan
Seems to me that a married woman trying to get you into a relationship lacks integrity. Why mess with someone who has no integrity.... if she messed around on him, she will mess around on you.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.