"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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attracting an attention *****?

FrankWank

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we all know, guys give these attention *****s all the attention they need. they dont need to approach guys, because guys will approach them all the time

how do u reverse this, so they can approach you???
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

Don Juanabbe

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Originally posted by FrankWank
we all know, guys give these attention *****s all the attention they need. they dont need to approach guys, because guys will approach them all the time

how do u reverse this, so they can approach you???
Ignore her. Then give her a little attention. Then ignore her. Then give her a little attention. Bust on her. Act like you couldn't give a f*ck and like she ain't so special.
 

Tempest

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You have to approach HER! You can't expect to stand there and have the opposite happen.

Sure TONS of guys are approaching them, that means you need to go in there DIFFERENT. Go in there with a strategy.

I've found that with the night game, it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to attract the girl without negging them. I've tried to go in with my indifferent approach, storytelling, etc... which works at the malls. I just get BLOWN OUT during night game when I try this.

I sometimes just open the girls with "oh my god... that purse... you have to be like the 5th person I've seen today with that EXACT same purse.... you are soo original!"

Think of some good ones which you could use. Remember, girls aren't biatches. They're only biatches for the first 5 minutes, which means you need to be an ******* for the first 5-10 minutes to disarm her. Negging is the only way I've found to disarm them, unless you are SUPER good looking or can form an amazing quick connection with them.

When it comes to interacting with the girl, do a FREEZE out or a turnaway/backturn. She says something you don't like, turn your back to her! Do it as a joke, then turn back around and engage her again. Don't go in with rapport, which is what every other guy does. Be indifferent, show little interest. I suggest checking out Mystery Method or RSD... they specialize in this stuff. You can find out basics from fastseduction.
 

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I got approached by an attention *****. If she really likes you she will come to you if she's more of the aggresive type.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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DJ Hawtness

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Originally posted by Fatality
I got approached by an attention *****. If she really likes you she will come to you if she's more of the aggresive type.
You're lucky she did come to you though. Usually, this doesn't happen.

My advice is don't hit the steering wheel because if you do...you'll regret it for the next 2 days.
 
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