"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Asking out a girl from a very small bootcamp class. Bad idea?

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"Very small" as in there are around 12 members, but around six who show up all four days of the week. Me and her are two of the main ones. We've also been talking a *lot* before and after class, and I think she's into me.

The reason I'm hesitant? this is a very small group in an ongoing class that's been meeting since December of last year. This isn't like a cold approach. If it backfires, we'll have to awkwardly avoid talking to each other in a tiny gym room for four days a week for the rest of the year.

Avoid this one?
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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No just casually ask her for her phone number. If she says she has a BF or whatever then just say Oh ok thats cool. It won't be weird unless you make it weird. Best case you get her number, worst case she has a BF and you never see her again after this class.

I've been in this type of situation before. Better to have asked and found out she has a BF than not ask and wonder about her for the rest of your life!
 
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why the hell would a female be in a pick up bootcamp with a bunch of men and and not expect to be hit on? her being there is a signal that all are welcome to apply. go for it.
 
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visions said:
why the hell would a female be in a pick up bootcamp with a bunch of men and and not expect to be hit on? her being there is a signal that all are welcome to apply. go for it.
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Actually...it's just me and the girls. The men are all in the morning class.

it's like i've died and gone to heaven. (well, counting out the two fatties.)
 
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Actually...it's just me and the girls. The men are all in the morning class.

it's like i've died and gone to heaven. (well, counting out the two fatties.)
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a bootcamp for females? strange. i'm leaning that the women there are dtf.
go for it
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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visions said:
a bootcamp for females? strange. i'm leaning that the women there are dtf.
go for it
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Yeah...mostly late 20s, early 30s crowd. a good portion of them do have "I need a man" written all over them.
 
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Starfishandcoffee,

I'm not certain what is going on here.

Is this is a "bootcamp" for those who want to get in to a long term relationship or is this a 24-Hr fitness bootcamp with instructors and some variation of Tae-Bo?

Regardless, you may as well chat her up and see if she's game for a post-workout coffee / smoothie / drink. I know there's a lot of girls I wish I had asked out but didn't. Now I'm a lot more bold, but those missed opportunities...
 
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Sik said:
Is this is a "bootcamp" for those who want to get in to a long term relationship or is this a 24-Hr fitness bootcamp with instructors and some variation of Tae-Bo?
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A very, very intense workout class - four days a week, mixture of weights, cardio, and whatever crazy stuff my instructors want to inflict on us. I'm surprised we've even had time to talk...half of the time we're all panting like hell.

I'm not nervous about asking her out - I'm getting good at asking girls out lately. I'm nervous about this possibly getting awkward if she says no. It's a very close knit group of people I see four days a week, and girls...well, they talk.

(They've also known each other for about four months...far longer than few weeks I've been in the class.)

I'm probably overthinking this...
 
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Ah, I see. This is actually in your favor. Reference: http://www.sosuave.com/articles/at/liketolove.htm

I think you're right in that you're over thinking it. If she has a boyfriend, she'll just say she can't make it to whatever you suggest. The only place I don't ask girls out is where I work. My paycheck is more important that any vagina.

Anyways, ask her out! There won't be any awkwardness, she'll probably be flattered. If anything, the other girls will be wondering why you didn't choose them and then will feel insecure.

When is the next time you're going to this class? I'm going to be following up, Starfish!
 
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Monday.

(I actually have a followup date with another girl that night. This is gonna be a great summer...)
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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