"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Asking her out afterbshe flaked 1st time

Prodoge

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Last week I asked a girl out and she agreed right away, got logistics sorted out, done deal.

The following day (day of date) she messaged me saying she can't make it because she got asked to go to a meeting after work. She can have the benefit of the doubt on that one.

At this point I'm not sure should I go NC or try to arrange another date this week ?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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kenpiffyjr

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Early oneitis.

Go find other girls. When u have another plate spinning with a girl you're having fun with, then message this girl to see if she wants to meet up with you somewhere.
 

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Technically, at least to me, she didn't flake on you. When I think of the term flake I think of it as leaving the person you set a time/place with hanging without explanation.

But given that you gave her the benefit of the doubt, it's okay to try again. Had she left you hanging, then no second chances.
 

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Don't reach out for a week. If she doesn't contact you in that week that's a bad sign, but you still can make one more attempt ..

If she gives you an excuse after that, delete her number and move on.
 

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Other guys said it, but to reinforce their line of thinking: you try again in a couple days time with another invitation. Be direct and have a date and time ready. If she flakes, don't make another thread asking "she flaked for the second time, what should I do?", but delete the number and move on.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Krueg

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3 Options..

1. Try one more time, if you really like her.
2. You already asked, she was "busy". You could wait for her to reach out to you.
3. Ignore..
 

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Last week I asked a girl out and she agreed right away, got logistics sorted out, done deal.

The following day (day of date) she messaged me saying she can't make it because she got asked to go to a meeting after work. She can have the benefit of the doubt on that one.

At this point I'm not sure should I go NC or try to arrange another date this week ?
What do you want to do? Think on that and then do it.
 

OJN_98

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If she flakes with no explanation or attempt to reschedule, it's because YOU weren't good enough for her.

It's that simple.

Focus on your own well-being and stop trying to find a silver bullet technique to make women want you more.

And for goodness sake, don't buy into the SS message board myth that going NC on her is going to fix everything.
To the point, I like it.
 

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Flaking is completely unacceptable.

Do not ask this woman out again. Delete her number out of your phone. How many women have you flaked on in your life? My guess is not many... only the ones you didn't like. If a woman flakes, it is because she has low interest. Don't waste any more time or money on this self-serving *****.

OP, you should be mad. Mad as hell. Flaking is disrespectful. Asking any woman out again after a flake lets her know the behavior is permitted. **** that.

There are only two scenarios we accept broken dates:

A) She counter-offers
B) You haven't met her yet (you set the date up through online dating)

In the case of B, wait a week or so and try once more.
 

Thorninmyside

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"she got asked to go to a meeting after work"

Have you ruled out "hot guy asked her out for drinks that day" as a possibility for the cancellation? Sounds like LI to me.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Prodoge

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I'd go NC until THURS 05/08 then text "hi."
You mean 5th august ?

I see a problem here because we have quite a few friends in common and I will see her between now and then, probably even multiple times.
 

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No and no
Why would you waste the effort to even send her a "hey" text? She flaked on you and unless you are an emotionless human being it didnt exactly make you happy.

Why allow her to do it again?

Just be silent. Do not contact her in any way. She has your number and its her job at this point to reach out.
 

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Don't reach out for a week. If she doesn't contact you in that week that's a bad sign, but you still can make one more attempt ..

If she gives you an excuse after that, delete her number and move on.
This is the correct answer.
 

EyeBRollin

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It doesn't matter if she accepts a future date with you. Her interest level (lack of) was made clear already. You will always be nothing to her, or her second option. Women that like you don't flake.

OP, do not try again. Forget this girl. She's history.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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