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You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

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Asking a girl to prom

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What do you guys think are good lines?

Standard: Do you want to goto prom with me?
Somewhat DJish: I'd love for you to come to prom with me.
A little more DJish: I really want to goto prom this year. I have alot of girls in mind to ask, but I think your the best one. Would you goto prom with me?

etc. etc.

What you guys think are good lines?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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AC/DC

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I used this one in all my attempts:

"____________, (her name here) would you give me the pleasure of escorting you to our prom?"

Worked pretty good!
 

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Around here, it seems to be a pretty big deal to make a spectacle out of asking somebody to prom, so here's what I did.

(This girl enjoys fishing)

I took clear jello, mixed it with blue jello, threw some swedish fish in there. When it hardened, i put a lego guy in a boat on top of the jello, with a fishing rod and a fish on the hook. On the sail was a sign saying "I'm fishing for a prom date, will you go with me". I was also dressed in a fisherman outfit, with a fishing rod in my hands.

I left it at my friend's doorstep (I didn't know she was coming) and when she came she picked it up, rang the door, and I opened. Bang, I had my date to prom.
 

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Originally posted by AC/DC
I used this one in all my attempts:

"____________, (her name here) would you give me the pleasure of escorting you to our prom?"

Worked pretty good!
That's pretty slick. I may modify it a bit when I decide on who to take to prom. I'll tell ya guys how it turns out.
 

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Prom is such a big deal? When I read this it reminds me of people wondering how to ask a girl to be your girlfriend. Think up a smooth line and use it.

The fisherman thing was BRILLIANT.

Take example from it. It was creative. Be creative.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Well I mean, it is not like a propasal for marriage, just ask the girl you wanna go with in a confident way and she will probly say yes. Consider your lucky though, Iam not going to mine, girl Iam messin with is trippin, and its late to ask anyone else(which is a week away), so I'll just chill with my bros at a party after the prom. The hand Iam delt so I gotta roll with it. But back on topic, make sure you ask early, but not to early.
 

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Well I went with something simple. I looked her in the eyes, smiled, and then said, " (Name), I want to take you to prom." She smiled and said, "Yes!" :D
 

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Forgot to mention that while I did this I kept eyecontact and had my hands on her waist. :)
 

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that is DJish.... the fisherman thing is not, that is NICE GUYish... good luck being her friend fisherman...
 

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jive, ur gonna get flamed, it worked and thats what counts. Especially you cant go around sayin that is and thats not, dont pigeon hole things, let them be as they are. Say you prefer one to the other, but that the other one is not as useful.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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i just called up a girl i knew said hey whats up bla bla "wanna go to prom with me" that seemed to do the job really well.
 

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if you brought her flowers, and asked her that like baout escorting you to prom, that would be awesome


i like the fisherman idea.


Jive, maybe he did just ask a friend. nothing wrong with that. Its like youre expecting your prom date to screw you on prom night and that everyone ends up getting with their dates and going out afterwards.
 

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theres nothing wrong with asking a friend, i asked a friend who has a boyfriend and both of us had a blast
 

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When is your prom? Its getting pretty late to ask her. If your going to ask her just say. "Hey, who are you going to prom with?" Then if she says no-one just ask her if she wants to go with you. One of my friends who is a really good artist drew this big picture of a dog on his arm and had a caption from it's mouth asking if she would go with him. Pretty cool idea.

I went to prom last night, it was a blast. There was a guy that was dressed up as a pirate.
 

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I made my date a fortune cookie. The fortune inside said:
"Confucius say: Happy woman is woman who goes to prom with Al Smith (my name). So, what do you say?"

She said yes, of course, and we had a blast at prom last night. And don't worry, I'm definitely not in the "friend zone."
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Originally posted by LikRetsam
Take example from it. It was creative. Be creative.
how about this...

i was having some problems finding a date (the girl im talking to currently, her parents said she couldnt go)...

my next attempt said yes, then backed out on me...rumors or something...

my last ditch effort (our prom is this coming saturday) i bought a white t-shirt and wrote on it "NEED A PROM DATE, CALL ***-****" my number was where the astericks are.

though i did not get any calls, the two head cheerleaders (one who is dating the star basketball/football player) gave me their numbers and suggested that i call them sometime if i wanted to get together.

i did get a prom date, but i also got numbers of many girls i had pursued before without any luck...

another way of showing that having some balls will definitely work for you...

the punkrock DJ
 

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Jive, maybe he did just ask a friend. nothing wrong with that. Its like youre expecting your prom date to screw you on prom night and that everyone ends up getting with their dates and going out afterwards.

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going with a friend is not DJish at all..... and that fisherman thing was creative, but again was not DJish..... u want creative and DJish, do what i'm doing.....

this girl has been hinting to me she wants to go with me, asking if i have a date yet... etc... anyway, i'm taking her out miniputting this friday, and i made a bet with her, i win and she gives me a massage, she wins, and i'll take her to prom...... its a win-win situation, it makes it seem like i'm not desparate and in a way i am saying "fine, i'll go with u"... and even if i win, which i probly will, i'll still ask her and joke around that its because i feel bad that i kicked her ass at miniput
 

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Originally posted by triple_ultima
I made my date a fortune cookie. The fortune inside said:
"Confucius say: Happy woman is woman who goes to prom with Al Smith (my name). So, what do you say?"

She said yes, of course, and we had a blast at prom last night. And don't worry, I'm definitely not in the "friend zone."
Ok I gotta ask, did you make the cookie by hand or do they sell "make your own fortune cookie" sets? I've got a couple of jokes in mind if they do. :D
 

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Originally posted by jiveturkey
going with a friend is not DJish at all..... and that fisherman thing was creative, but again was not DJish..... u want creative and DJish, do what i'm doing.....

this girl has been hinting to me she wants to go with me, asking if i have a date yet... etc... anyway, i'm taking her out miniputting this friday, and i made a bet with her, i win and she gives me a massage, she wins, and i'll take her to prom...... its a win-win situation, it makes it seem like i'm not desparate and in a way i am saying "fine, i'll go with u"... and even if i win, which i probly will, i'll still ask her and joke around that its because i feel bad that i kicked her ass at miniput
No such thing as DJish, maybe he wanted to go with a friend. Why cant the n00bs ever get this right, the only possible interpretation of a DJ is what you want to be. everyone believes different things and there is no right or wrong path to follow. Going with a friend is what he wanted to do.

Although it is a good sit that your doing, well done
 

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How late is too late to ask?? Mines in like 2 weeks.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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