MatureDJ
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Are Men Really Having A 'Friendship Crisis'?
It’s lonely being a dude, but it doesn't have to be.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Guys are getting more competitive with each other in the last ten or so years due to you know what.I find male company less and less enjoyable these days. There's something about being around guys all the time that I just hate.
While male friendship may not be considered "gay" as a concept, I think that straight men in general are increasingly weary of making new acquaintances with other men because of widespread homosexuality. This may be less of an issue in smaller towns/rural communities; I'm talking about big cities.Yes, not having friends is a big reason for the lonely end for so many White dudes (drugs, alcoholism, then suicide). I don't think it's because male friendship is seen as "gay" though, at least not after 16 or so. We're not that dumb.
Yeah I see no benefit what so ever, specially how we are wired sexuallytowards themI don’t want female platonic friendship. There’s no benefit in it for me. I’ve been burned twice by it and I only had to stick my hand on the stove twice to realize it was hot. Never ever again. In all honesty I found myself more depressed and self conscious and down on myself while having platonic female friends than I did when I didn’t have them. Being around a female that doesn’t want you or see you as sexually attractive will take a tole on your self esteem and mental state. They have a way of reminding you subtly that you aren’t good enough for them in their eyes.
I’m not telling anyone what to do or who to be friends with but for me and my experience, having female friends is a bad thing. Unless it’s a friends wife or girlfriend and I just have to be around them, I see no benefit of being friends with a woman. Any woman. You set yourself up to get used and taken advantage of and you risk hurting your self esteem and you become bitter about women because you’re constantly hanging around one that doesn’t want you.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
I’ve come to learn that the types of women that force these friendships on a guy (in other words they don’t just say ljbf, they see you as someone that can do something beneficial for them) tend to have narcissistic traits. Or at least the ones I’ve been around and observe this pattern of behavior in.Yeah I see no benefit what so ever, specially how we are wired sexuallytowards them
I was at bar/lounge last weekend. I don’t have a problem chatting a bit with guys, although I obviously don’t seek it out. But this guy was being overly friendly, had his body turned completely to face me, and kept asking me, “Are you SURE you have to get up early tomorrow? How early? What time? Do you live far from here?”While male friendship may not be considered "gay" as a concept, I think that straight men in general are increasingly weary of making new acquaintances with other men because of widespread homosexuality. This may be less of an issue in smaller towns/rural communities; I'm talking about big cities.
I live in a city with a large gay population. Anytime a random dude starts conversation, the first question that comes to mind is "is he gay"?Oftentimes the answer is yes. For the same reason, you may be reluctant to befriend new men because you know they are thinking the same thing.
Agree with everything except the very last sentence. You can make friends over gaming, I just wouldn't recommend it being the only thing you do.Male friendships are based around activity...DOING something.
When guys have an emotional connection with another guy it is while doing an activity together. Call it plausible deniability, but that's how it is. That is why dads take sons fishing. So they can talk...
So as an adult, you join a softball team, you help your neighbor with a construction project, you go hunting with the guys. That is how you connect with other guys.
Nobody ever developed a close male friendship playing call of duty in mom's basement....
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
100% this. I recently started gaming again, a hobby I'd set aside for 10 years because of an addiction I had to it in my late teens and at college. Pre red pill, going to the gym, sorting finances and winning in life I was games as an easy way to seek out external achievements but as a rational, disciplined adult with other things going on in my world now, gaming is an awesome release. It's all about balance.Agree with everything except the very last sentence. You can make friends over gaming, I just wouldn't recommend it being the only thing you do.
True Forced Loneliness prophet "Roller" Steve Hoca has discussed this in a video - that men are so hard up & competitive for poontang that they treat other men like competition that must be squashed.Guys are getting more competitive with each other in the last ten or so years due to you know what.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.