"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Are these good or bad signs?
- Thread starter styleman
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Charm&Style
Master Don Juan
In all honesty the "signs" you have mentioned are nothing special.
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
How long have you been "together?"
What have you done physically?
I don't know how to make a move, damn serious, women have always mad a move on me. Serious problem I guess...Charm&Style said:Have you made a move?
In all honesty the "signs" you have mentioned are nothing special.
Agree nothing special, but usually these come after sex, not before!
I don't know how to make a move, damn serious, women have always mad a move on me. Serious problem I guess...Charm&Style said:Have you made a move?
In all honesty the "signs" you have mentioned are nothing special.
Agree nothing special, but usually these come after sex, not before!
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Known of her quite a whileMaxtro said:How long have you known her?
How long have you been "together?"
What have you done physically?
Around 4 dates,
kissed is the extent of 'physically'
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
When you say kissed, I hope you mean made out for at least a couple of minutes. If not you need to do it.
When you're making out let your hands wander. There is a ton of info on this site about foreplay and getting girls ready for sex. Look for stuff about kino.
What matters most though, is that if you don't make the move it probably won't happen. BTW who kissed whom first and how did it happen?
Maxtro said:OK so it seems that you've been dating her for about a month, I'm guessing one date a week.
When you say kissed, I hope you mean made out for at least a couple of minutes. If not you need to do it.
When you're making out let your hands wander. There is a ton of info on this site about foreplay and getting girls ready for sex. Look for stuff about kino.
What matters most though, is that if you don't make the move it probably won't happen. BTW who kissed whom first and how did it happen?
She kissed me, as I said, I have never made the first move on a woman... Just too afraid to being called a rapist or some **** like that...
As far as social interaction goes I'd say I'm a very confident and self righteous guy, its just that when it comes to getting physical I don't initiate mostly due to fear entrained into me, if they don't want it, then I could get into trouble.
oakraiderz2
Master Don Juan
sorry buddy but no woman is gonna call you a rapist for trying to kiss her. If you've shown any interest in her she'll be expecting it. Kiss this girl NOW!!!!styleman said:She kissed me, as I said, I have never made the first move on a woman... Just too afraid to being called a rapist or some **** like that...
As far as social interaction goes I'd say I'm a very confident and self righteous guy, its just that when it comes to getting physical I don't initiate mostly due to fear entrained into me, if they don't want it, then I could get into trouble.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.