"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Are there really girls that don't kiss on the first date?
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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Senior Don Juan
Brad who? Anyway, yes, I would say some would'nt like to kiss on the 1st date as a rule.
Girls don't want to seem too easy because they know guys want a challenge.
Alen-Delon
Senior Don Juan
BigWillyStyle
Banned
But I've never dated one. I've made out with all girls on first dates, alot turned out to be hoes mind you.
You think your not good looking enough that's why she won't kiss on the first date, not necessarily, but possible. If you go out on at least 3 dates and still haven't kissed, drop her. That's just my personal opinion though.
P.S. Please don't tell me you ask girls if you can kiss them on the date, oh sweet mother of mary please say no...
check_mate_kid_uk
Master Don Juan
on the other hand, if you where in a romantic situation with a girl you are dating for a while and obviously made out with before, then if you say to her "kiss me" at the right moment, when you are getting very close, saying it as a command telling her to kiss you, well this would be a good thing but its totaly diffrent
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
MindOverMatter
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Six-String Samurai
Don Juan
I mentioned Brad Pitt because he seems to be the guy just about every girl wants. I just felt that these girls who claim to never kiss on the first date would kiss him.Originally posted by BigWillyStyle
I guess there are some types that don't kiss on first date ie christain girls, super high morals girls...
But I've never dated one. I've made out with all girls on first dates, alot turned out to be hoes mind you.
You think your not good looking enough that's why she won't kiss on the first date, not necessarily, but possible. If you go out on at least 3 dates and still haven't kissed, drop her. That's just my personal opinion though.
P.S. Please don't tell me you ask girls if you can kiss them on the date, oh sweet mother of mary please say no...
No I am not one of those guys that asks if I could kiss. Although I do remember my older sister telling me to ask a girl first when i was about 14. I was a total chump back then but I had enough common sense to realize that was just lame..
JT47319
Master Don Juan
Really, if YOU, a guy, could kiss and makeout with girls on the first date, WOULDN'T YOU? Morality & ethics don't even come into the question at the point.
Girls are sexual, horny people too. Don't put them on some sort of fucking pedestal thinking they're all special, pure virgins.
THEY WANT YOU (or if not you, someone BETTER THAN YOU).
check_mate_kid_uk
Master Don Juan
your the man, you should kiss her, so infact do not complain she did not kiss you, if you go to kiss her at a reasonable point and she does not let you, well thats when the 1st paragaraph applys, remember you are the man you initaite everything, you kiss her!
hope iv been a help
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Alen-Delon
Senior Don Juan
check_mate_kid_uk
Master Don Juan
Alen-Delon
Senior Don Juan
check_mate_kid_uk
Master Don Juan
Ok, so she doesn't kiss on the first date..well, you should be casually dating MORE THAN ONE girl. If one doesn't kiss, the others probably will. Keep at the ones that are the most interesting and physically attractive to you.
That's all there is to it.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Six-String Samurai
Don Juan
I have to disagree with what you're saying. There's nothing wrong with telling a girl you had a good time... you don't have to be Mr. Neg-hit 100% of the time
She would kiss you if she was interested in you.
This applies to all chicks, including shy chicks and foreign chicks.
Even if her excuse was true, you would waste a lot of time continuing with chicks who have stupid fvcking "rules" like that anyway. And if she was one without the rule and just didn't want to kiss you, you'd definitely be wasting your time.
check_mate_kid_uk
Master Don Juan
i know there is nothing wrong with that, its the saying thank you that you should not do!
as for kissing on first date im going ot tell you what i told you before, this time read it.
in theory a girl abandon her ethics, and kiss on a first date even if she normally did not, if she liked you enough, but rmember its the first date, she could be intrested in you with out being in love with you, any girl could decide to kiss you on a first date even if she ussaly does not but just because they do not, does not mena she does not like you lots of girls as a rule will not kiss on a first date unless its under some special cirumstance, so shes not totaly in love with you, but what do you expect on a first date, its not necciserly such a bad thing if she does not kiss you on the first date.
your the man, you should kiss her, so infact do not complain she did not kiss you, if you go to kiss her at a reasonable point and she does not let you, well thats when the 1st paragaraph applys, remember you are the man you initiate everything, you kiss her!
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.