are most of you getting laid on the first date itself ?

[Vypros]

you speak to inanimate objects?

if you want to relate men and women as inanimate objects then you should consider the men being a transmission and a woman being a radio.

So, in other words that's a "no comment" then?

I'm sure you understood my point.

If an engine could speak and had emotions, I'd ask both the mechanic and the engine. Sure, the engine may not know why it runs, but it could tell me how it feels while it's doing 90 MPH on the freeway.

Studying women is like studying any other subject. You must take both perspectives into account before you can make an educated decision. Otherwise, you're not well informed.

This website is not a complete guide to seducing women. None of the books written about seduction are complete guides to seducing women. They are only resources to study seduction. This might come off as a low-blow, but guess what? Every true "master of seduction" has talked to women about their theory's too.

Hey, I'm not saying you shouldn't get a woman's perspective on things. And I'm not trying to bust on penkitten here at all, even if it seems that way.

In fact, in one of my other posts I suggested that someone go buy a bunch of women's magazines and read them. It helps you get into their frame, understand that they are studying US in the same way we here are studying them, and it lets you see just how insecure a lot of women are by what they talk about. Very therapeutical for someone who puts women up on a pedastool.


But let me ask you a question. Have you ever really liked a girl, and you were friends with her friend, so you asked her advice on what you should do to get her?

How did that work out for you?

Let me just say this one thing and I'll leave it at this: Be careful asking a WOMAN'S advice on how to get another woman. They tell you what they THINK they want, but it's not what they want at all!

I'm sure most of you here have been friendzoned before and have heard the girl *****ing about her boyfriend and how he treats her like ****. Then she goes into a diatribe about "oh why can't i find a guy who is nice? who will treat me good? etc."

And you are sitting there thinking: HEY, I'M RIGHT HERE! DAMN!

They think they know what they want, but they DON'T. And that's just a fact of life, not a negative comment towards them at all.

 

[BlackJackal]

I understand what you're talking about when it comes to a woman's advice. But it's not about the womans advice at all. It's just about becoming familiar with females in general, and being familiar with the individual female that you're dealing with. As far as the general is concerned, I was able to do so because my family has a lot of women.

Thats at least what I meant when I said to get a womans perspective. Kinda like how a hunter learns his targets patterns and routine. Making it more likely that he'll kill his prey, rather than just hoping he'll even find a target.

 

[Vypros]

I understand what you're talking about when it comes to a woman's advice. But it's not about the womans advice at all. It's just about becoming familiar with females in general, and being familiar with the individual female that you're dealing with. As far as the general is concerned, I was able to do so because my family has a lot of women.

Thats at least what I meant when I said to get a womans perspective. Kinda like how a hunter learns his targets patterns and routine. Making it more likely that he'll kill his prey, rather than just hoping he'll even find a target.

I agree with that.

PERSPECTIVE is one thing, ADVICE is something completely different. Never take a woman's ADVICE on picking up women. ALWAYS listen to her PERSPECTIVE on women.

 

[Hyde]

But let me ask you a question. Have you ever really liked a girl, and you were friends with her friend, so you asked her advice on what you should do to get her?

How did that work out for you?

Some of the best advice I've ever received came from women.

There are hundreds of female dating experts out there with hundreds of male clients who've had great success from a female's dating advice. (http://www.datingtomating.com/about.asp)

 

[penkitten]

So, in other words that's a "no comment" then?

I'm sure you understood my point.

my comments were pretty clear , perhaps you need to reread them.

 

[gmillar]

or do women still hold out for 3 to 4 dates before putting out....

The vast majority aren't getting laid on ANY date. That's why they're here. The best way to learn is to do, just go out and see which date you get laid on.

 

[Fenderules]

sounds like me ^