are most of you getting laid on the first date itself ?

[BlackJackal]

Vypros, I am not a woman, but that is exactly right what you said. Some women that like you will not give it up on the first date so you won't disappear. But, some women that don't even like you, will give it up because that's all they see that guy as is a way to get a nut. Women are more and more like men nowadays, and you have to adapt to this lifestyle.

Thats right. Which is why I dont date. Its easier to just chill and make her horny enuff to give it up. But you have to know in your gut that the girl is even feelin you like that, to this off.

 

[Serialized3]

If you get laid on the first date, it's almost always "fool's mate".

Either the chick is a skank, she's attracted to you so much that you don't even need game, or a you are a mPUA.

 

[Snow Plowman]

It's weird this question came up because now that I think about it there aren't many lays that take more than day2 to get the lay.

If you don't get the lay first or 2nd day is because of logistics problems or LMR. The rare cases are you playing the slow seduction route or you were actually busy CHOSE not the fuk her.

Rule of thumb though, if you didn't **** her by day3 also known as 2nd hangout then most likely you won't be having sex with her. If you do then its more in the provider frame which overall you don't want unless you plan on having a LTR or getting married with this chick.

All these emotions and stuff is happening so fast that first day is when you can lay, the biggest problem is logistics. Girl's want validation from high value guys like this and they feel validated when they give the guy sex and he takes it.

So there you have it, if your doing this stuff properly then yes your getting laid first date, day2, first hangout or whatever you want to call it. If you are choding around then the answer is no, because she is holding out. If she is holding out then you did something wrong. No way a girl should be holding out it should be more her throwing the...in your face.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

If you get laid on the first date, it's almost always "fool's mate".

Either the chick is a skank, she's attracted to you so much that you don't even need game, or a you are a mPUA.

And if you are consitently getting "fool's mate", you are doing something very right. If you are getting laid on the first date, but only on rare occasions.

Don't disagree with you, yet only very few guys, without great looks, will consitently get laid on the first date without having at least descent to good game. If you got the looks, and you don't fvck it up, you will get laid consistently, and I hate you as I am jealous.

 

[KneghtRyder]

And if you are consitently getting "fool's mate", you are doing something very right. If you are getting laid on the first date, but only on rare occasions.

Don't disagree with you, yet only very few guys, without great looks, will consitently get laid on the first date without having at least descent to good game. If you got the looks, and you don't fvck it up, you will get laid consistently, and I hate you as I am jealous.

quoting for agreement....

 

[ryannath]

Another line they will tell you after you lay them the first night is, and it's classic......"This tonight.......it just happened!" I had a girl tell me that after I banged her on the first night, and I thought it was ridiculous for her to say that, because SHE is the one to invite me over! I had to laugh at her for saying that, and she realized how stupid it was, and she laughed too. And she told me she would get ahold of me sometime, and she never did. I guess I was just a quick fvck, or maybe she thought I thought she was a slut. Who knows.

 

[BlackJackal]

It's weird this question came up because now that I think about it there aren't many lays that take more than day2 to get the lay.

If you don't get the lay first or 2nd day is because of logistics problems or LMR. The rare cases are you playing the slow seduction route or you were actually busy CHOSE not the fuk her.

Rule of thumb though, if you didn't **** her by day3 also known as 2nd hangout then most likely you won't be having sex with her. If you do then its more in the provider frame which overall you don't want unless you plan on having a LTR or getting married with this chick.

All these emotions and stuff is happening so fast that first day is when you can lay, the biggest problem is logistics. Girl's want validation from high value guys like this and they feel validated when they give the guy sex and he takes it.

So there you have it, if your doing this stuff properly then yes your getting laid first date, day2, first hangout or whatever you want to call it. If you are choding around then the answer is no, because she is holding out. If she is holding out then you did something wrong. No way a girl should be holding out it should be more her throwing the...in your face.

And thats even if the woman is aware that you're not lookin for a gf. She know whats goin down from the start. Just make her comfortable with you and you can make it happen.

 

[Serialized3]

And if you are consitently getting "fool's mate", you are doing something very right. If you are getting laid on the first date, but only on rare occasions.

Don't disagree with you, yet only very few guys, without great looks, will consitently get laid on the first date without having at least descent to good game. If you got the looks, and you don't fvck it up, you will get laid consistently, and I hate you as I am jealous.

Would you consider going out to the bars and getting a ONS "getting laid on the first date"? Cos I mean, I can almost always go to the bars and go home with a decent looking girl at the end of the night, and we all know what that leads to... That sh!ts almost too easy...

Or are we talking about traditional, old-skool "dating" where you meet some girl, get her number, call her up, and then go for coffee or whatever you lamoids do ? I've hooked up immediately with a couple of girls old-skool dating, but I could just tell they wanted me right away, and I was like "Eh, why not?"

I won't have sex on the first date with a chick anymore, she "has to get to know [me]" first. Im a puss-tease, it's horrible.

 

[Raikojo17]

penkitten...actually pleasant to hear a women's perspective. As a guy I'm thrilled to get it on the 1st date , but also in the back of my mind wondering "how many other guys nailed her on the 1st date too"?

if you guys care so much about getting laid, why would it matter if she did even 90 guys on the first date? you still get laid, so i dont know wat u guys get all worked up about if she's easy like that. u get wat u want, she get's wat she wants. everyones happy.

 

[Raikojo17]

yes we do. we always have and we always will. (do a search and you will see countless threads containing this information posted by all kinds of men.)
yes thats what i said and meant.
we "feel" and do what we feel is right at the moment. if we had time to sit down and think things thru, this is logical to us. a fling will come and go, but a good guy will stick around. these are the kinds of things that we are taught and experienced at least once, that makes us continue to think this way.

and this also confuses me, which leads me further to think that girls are crazy. Like V said this makes no sense at all. ur saying that if some random drunk retard came up to you and wanted to hit it, u'd let him do it jus so he could leave faster? but if the man you've always wanted asks for it, u make him wait til ur married or some junk like that. that's screwed up.

I have a question. so how about the girl that wouldn't make-out wit me on the first date. does that mean she really likes me? I like to think of myself as a great catch, cuz im different than other guys. but im also impatient, and didnt stick around waiting to get it like some hungry dog. I nexted her.

admit it. AFC's stick around waitin to get it from u. u make HIM wait til the day he dies to get it, and he'll stick around waitin too. but when someone that drives u wild comes, u would give it up to him. admit it.

i call slut defense on this statement.

 

[Raikojo17]

Once you have developed into the IDEAL MAN that she's been waiting to meet, and who she finds herself jumping through hoops, as opposed to the man who she constantly has to resist because he's just trying very hard, 1st date hookups will not be a rarity for you guys. Believe it or not, if you are doing all the right things, you will consitently bed most women in about 7-12 hours, as Mystery has stated in his material.

Women have all these "rules" about when they should put out, and when not; yet they seem to have different kinds of rules for the type of guy that gives them that deep, instant, physical, & chemical attraction. With this type of guy, she starts feeling so attracted, and the fear of loss is greater than the fear of how she will come out looking, that she will ignore what society tells her she should do, and will be very open to getting intimate, fast.

Once you are good with women, she will bypass the "3 date rule" and be open to anything. This will only happen after she has tested you, which means she will test you hard and early, within the first few hours she meets/talks to you, because she is also eager to move things along with you. She will "be ready" for you once you have proven worthy, at least by her standards.

Once she has gone to bed with you, then she will most likely pull out one of her rationalizations out of her bag of tricks, to make sure you don't think she's "easy", or that she "does this with everybody". In reality, she doesn't do it with everybody, only everybody who pushes her attraction buttons to the levels she is not used to.

"I don't know how it happened"

"It has been a surreal experience."

"There was a lot of chemistry between us, it felt so natural."

These are common statements she will say to you. While

"One thing led to another", "I don't know how it happened", "He's very different." "He had chemistry", "There was a great connection between us." are statements she will use to rationalize her behavior in the eyes of her friends.

There are different types of guys she will sleep with.

1) The guy she is so attracted to, but not for long term relationship, so she might not hesitate.

2)The guy she sees as a provider, or relationship material, and will make him jump through hoops, and she won't want to come across as a hoe. If he becomes too much of a wuss, she will put him in the friends zone.

3) The guy who has his game and life together, that she will ignore her rules, and worry about catching him, then figure out how to keep him, because in her mind, he is definitely somebody she wants to be involved with, and knows he has his choice, and she's not gonna risk loosing out.

To answer your question, yes, probably 8 out of the last 10 women I've bedded, happened the first night we got together. One was the second night. 9 of the 10, within 12 hours total, combined since meeting. And the one that didn't surrender to the charm, was a virgin, so it took a couple of months, and only after I made it clear that it didn't matter if we never slept with eachother (fear of loss).

true that. if a girl likes u enough, she wont pull that crazy waiting game.

 

[Fenderules]

yeah i hate taht waiting game. it pisses me off

 

[knglerxt]

If a girl offered it, I wouldn't turn it down. But there's no way I would date a girl who gave it up that fast. That tells me she's been around the block, and I don't want a girl like that.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

If a girl offered it, I wouldn't turn it down. But there's no way I would date a girl who gave it up that fast. That tells me she's been around the block, and I don't want a girl like that.

When you become very good with women, you will know if she's that way with everyone, or just with you; because this will be happening consistently, wich says more about you than about them.

 

[CalmCoolAndConfident]

Thats good news 2 no girls are on this, they can back up or tell us what were doing wrong. And common guys how do u not know how the holding out thing works. Its something special to women, they arent going to let you in if you dont earn it.

 

[mrRuckus]

It completely blows them if you turn down the girl. They sit here and think they can yo yo you around and play these games on you, so turn up the heat and after a bit get up and say it's time to go home and you'll have exploded the whole thing in her face.

She'll run home and msg all her little AIM friends freaking out wondering what is wrong with her and get completely interested in the guy. At least that's what my handful of platonic female friends do...

 

[penkitten]

and this also confuses me, which leads me further to think that girls are crazy. Like V said this makes no sense at all. ur saying that if some random drunk retard came up to you and wanted to hit it, u'd let him do it jus so he could leave faster? but if the man you've always wanted asks for it, u make him wait til ur married or some junk like that. that's screwed up.

I have a question. so how about the girl that wouldn't make-out wit me on the first date. does that mean she really likes me? I like to think of myself as a great catch, cuz im different than other guys. but im also impatient, and didnt stick around waiting to get it like some hungry dog. I nexted her.

admit it. AFC's stick around waitin to get it from u. u make HIM wait til the day he dies to get it, and he'll stick around waitin too. but when someone that drives u wild comes, u would give it up to him. admit it.

i call slut defense on this statement.

now i never said that all chicks are out there doing random drunk retards from the bar, but the ones that do, they consider it a ons just like a man would consider it to be. they dont have to deal with him tomorrow, so they have fun with it.
now i cant speak for everyone, but if i ever found someone that i really thought was worth it, or drove me wild, the faster it happened.
however thats not exactly what i was getting at.
there are some guys that you know if you date them, no matter how desirable they are to you, they arent going to be around in six months, so you let the nature of things progress a little faster. then there are others, how are really decent good guys, that you take things slower with because if you gave it up too soon, they wouldn't want to date you.

i have no idea about what your date was thinking, but i know that if i wanted to kiss someone i did, and if i didnt , then i didnt. if i didnt feel chemistry, i didnt care what they felt. i'm sure the shoe has been on the other foot before too.

and most of the guys that were afc material, ended up just being my friend, and eventually stopped chasing me.

hope that helps.

 

[penkitten]

If a girl offered it, I wouldn't turn it down. But there's no way I would date a girl who gave it up that fast. That tells me she's been around the block, and I don't want a girl like that.

said a good guy who wanted to wait until about date number 3.

what did i tell you guys back on page one?

 

[ValleyDJing]

yes but if the guy is going to hit it and disappear, we would rather him do it sooner than later.

in fact, we are all kinda different at "the make him wait plan"

some of us are alot faster than others.

Why don't you just...not let him hit it?

 

[Vypros]

yes but if the guy is going to hit it and disappear, we would rather him do it sooner than later.

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That's all fine and dandy...whatever...the illogical part is the guy who sticks around is getting PUNISHED for doing the right thing while you are REWARDING the ******* who uses you like a piece of meat.

And THEN you go cry on your girlfriends shoulders how you feel so used. lol