Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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are most of you getting laid on the first date itself ?

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penkitten said:
you speak to inanimate objects?

if you want to relate men and women as inanimate objects then you should consider the men being a transmission and a woman being a radio.
So, in other words that's a "no comment" then?

I'm sure you understood my point.

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If an engine could speak and had emotions, I'd ask both the mechanic and the engine. Sure, the engine may not know why it runs, but it could tell me how it feels while it's doing 90 MPH on the freeway.

Studying women is like studying any other subject. You must take both perspectives into account before you can make an educated decision. Otherwise, you're not well informed.

This website is not a complete guide to seducing women. None of the books written about seduction are complete guides to seducing women. They are only resources to study seduction. This might come off as a low-blow, but guess what? Every true "master of seduction" has talked to women about their theory's too.
Hey, I'm not saying you shouldn't get a woman's perspective on things. And I'm not trying to bust on penkitten here at all, even if it seems that way.

In fact, in one of my other posts I suggested that someone go buy a bunch of women's magazines and read them. It helps you get into their frame, understand that they are studying US in the same way we here are studying them, and it lets you see just how insecure a lot of women are by what they talk about. Very therapeutical for someone who puts women up on a pedastool.


But let me ask you a question. Have you ever really liked a girl, and you were friends with her friend, so you asked her advice on what you should do to get her?

How did that work out for you?

Let me just say this one thing and I'll leave it at this: Be careful asking a WOMAN'S advice on how to get another woman. They tell you what they THINK they want, but it's not what they want at all!

I'm sure most of you here have been friendzoned before and have heard the girl *****ing about her boyfriend and how he treats her like ****. Then she goes into a diatribe about "oh why can't i find a guy who is nice? who will treat me good? etc."

And you are sitting there thinking: HEY, I'M RIGHT HERE! DAMN!

They think they know what they want, but they DON'T. And that's just a fact of life, not a negative comment towards them at all.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I understand what you're talking about when it comes to a woman's advice. But it's not about the womans advice at all. It's just about becoming familiar with females in general, and being familiar with the individual female that you're dealing with. As far as the general is concerned, I was able to do so because my family has a lot of women.

Thats at least what I meant when I said to get a womans perspective. Kinda like how a hunter learns his targets patterns and routine. Making it more likely that he'll kill his prey, rather than just hoping he'll even find a target.
 

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BlackJackal said:
I understand what you're talking about when it comes to a woman's advice. But it's not about the womans advice at all. It's just about becoming familiar with females in general, and being familiar with the individual female that you're dealing with. As far as the general is concerned, I was able to do so because my family has a lot of women.

Thats at least what I meant when I said to get a womans perspective. Kinda like how a hunter learns his targets patterns and routine. Making it more likely that he'll kill his prey, rather than just hoping he'll even find a target.
I agree with that.

PERSPECTIVE is one thing, ADVICE is something completely different. Never take a woman's ADVICE on picking up women. ALWAYS listen to her PERSPECTIVE on women.
 

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Vypros said:
But let me ask you a question. Have you ever really liked a girl, and you were friends with her friend, so you asked her advice on what you should do to get her?

How did that work out for you?
Some of the best advice I've ever received came from women.

There are hundreds of female dating experts out there with hundreds of male clients who've had great success from a female's dating advice. (http://www.datingtomating.com/about.asp)
 

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Vypros said:
So, in other words that's a "no comment" then?

I'm sure you understood my point.
my comments were pretty clear , perhaps you need to reread them.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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KneghtRyder said:
or do women still hold out for 3 to 4 dates before putting out....
The vast majority aren't getting laid on ANY date. That's why they're here. The best way to learn is to do, just go out and see which date you get laid on.
 
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