"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Anyone else really dislike Mystery Method?

Vice

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It's too systematic and scripted.

I suppose the appeal is that any dork can spray out a canned line and get results.

Trouble is, the MM only teaches technique, and no inner game, so alot of guys that are new to dealing with women can't hold up a conversation for very long.

It's great for beginners, but I've noticed that alot of guys who have their sh*t together laugh at almost every aspect of it.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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intrextrovert

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yeah

i think it's fine to have an opening line and a few tricks in your sleeve so to speak when approaching random women, esp. if you're new, but laying someone meetup to lay with someone else's words is just wierd and creepy.
 
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after reading the game by neil , he pretty much lived with mystery for a good year , I use to think his methods were bs, I still think some of them are, but there are some good things that hide behind the b.s....
 

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Mystery was the first one who had the balls to lay out the game step by step afaik. This is the first time a pua can actually be accounted for by his words. We can test his teachings.

His method gives us a usefull blueprint to get a hold over the structure of gaming. If you dont like what he teaches you can still have his stepped plan in the back of your head to have a feeling about where you are and what you're doing.
It's just technique, so its rather useless for other problems. But that's also its strong point. The method is not polluted by any philopsophy or inner game issues. It's a set of instructions that you can use in daily interactions. You use it and by testing and mastering them you can hopefully grow beyond them.

But I dislike the man personally for the fact that he says he's about inner game, that we misunderstand him if we think his method is just about getting a girl into bed. That's the biggest load of crap I ever heard.
I believe his technique is a true refelection of how the guy is: just form, no substance.
 
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