As a key to confidence and approaching women and having an awkward free, fun, constructive interraction with them, keeping them off the pedestal is of high importance. Does anyone have any good tips or ideas about how to come about this? Or is it simply something you learn after time?
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Any tips for bringing those women off those pedestals?
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
seethehoop
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Tbh. I think you will find it hard to get any tips given some of the sh!t you have already spewed in to this forum. This is either another failed troll post or you are genuinely being naive in thinking people will give you tips now...someone may prove me wrong but we'll see.
Sneevox
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A woman can't take the pedestal if someone else is on it.
Try stepping onto the pedestal.
To add, if a girl refuses to step down, don't waste time on her. The girl's not worth it. NEXT.
Try stepping onto the pedestal.
To add, if a girl refuses to step down, don't waste time on her. The girl's not worth it. NEXT.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
With that mentality you have already lostToast123 said:
Look, see women as people who have to prove that they are worth your time and attention. Forget they have "sugar walls" and sexy features. Realize that sex with a man is what these women are designed to do and if they don't want to sex you that is their issue. Tell yourself this till you wake up one morning removed from the seduction matrix. Then go and attract women. YMMV. Live long and prosper:rockon:Purefilth
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Seethehoop - you were wrong
foreverAFC
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once you see women for what they truly are, there is no more pedestal
zekko
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Look, I know you look at the girl and she has the long hair and the pretty face and all the curves and all that. But think of it this way - every woman on the planet has a pair of tits, she's nothing special.
You have what she wants just as much as she has what you want - maybe more. She can't get it from a space alien, so all that leaves is us earth men. She craves your maleness just as you crave her femaleness - even without all the ridiculous "games" they tell you to play here. Like foreverAFC says, there is no pedestal.
You have what she wants just as much as she has what you want - maybe more. She can't get it from a space alien, so all that leaves is us earth men. She craves your maleness just as you crave her femaleness - even without all the ridiculous "games" they tell you to play here. Like foreverAFC says, there is no pedestal.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.