"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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any openers or routines>?

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hello friend. I am journeying into game i ask could you offer me sample openers and routines from gurus and yourselves. id truly appreciate it.


Your fellow dj-in training to be mpua/mdj
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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hand your camera to a group of chicks and get them to start taking photos of you and your wing, invariably they will include themselves in these pictures and its on.
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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thank you all i extremely appreciate it.
 

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"Have you found Jesu..."

Eh, nevermind...
 

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what do you guys think of this one, ive been trying to make up openers because im awful at approaching

ME: how much does a polar bear weigh??
HER: ummm.... i dont know, what?
ME: I dunno either but it breaks the ice ;)
and then continue to talk....

havent tried it yet, will do next time im out. in the next week or so. anyway as i said what would u rate this opener out of 10?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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one day you'll realize HOW you say something matters so much more than what you say
 

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ready123 said:
one day you'll realize HOW you say something matters so much more than what you say

SIGNED! :cool:
 

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im aware of that but you need something to say and for an unconfident guy starting out, memorising things to open with is extremely useful imo, anyway give honest opinions on my opener please :)
 

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it all depends on the place and her body language.. if she's the quiet type something like "you are looking awkward, don't worry people won't bite as hard as I" or if she's having a lot of fun. Hey there! easy on the fun stuff I might have to fine you.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I really dont rate alot of those openers and things like 'your looking orkward' well thats more likely to make her feel orkward than respond happily id rather just go with the basics than that.
 

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sebastionay said:
im aware of that but you need something to say and for an unconfident guy starting out, memorising things to open with is extremely useful imo, anyway give honest opinions on my opener please :)
as long it's not cliche or wierd you can say anything. even "hi" is an effective opener as long as you have good energy

try this. look at where her attention is at, then make a funny comment about it. it'll help you learn how to "read" the girl
 

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I came up with a wicked one on the fly the other night at a bar/restaurant. My buddy is going through a divorce and he let me put on his wedding ring. I got it stuck on my ring finger of my left hand. I left it on for awhile, and noticed these two blondes at a table about 30 feet from us. I walked up to them and put both of my hands on the table and announced that I had a problem. Of course intrigued as to what my problem was I said "I need to figure out a way to get this ring off of my finger". They of course were wondering why i was trying to get "my" wedding ring off. At first I didnt say whether it was mine or my friends. I sat down next to one of the girls, and after about 5 minutes of convo and pulling on the ring it finally came off. Of course they were still undecided as to whether i was married/engaged, etc. I ended up leaving with the cuter ones number even after she refused at first by telling me she didnt give her number out but would take mine. I told her that I dont give mine out either as im having problems with stalkers and I dont deal with that well. She ended up giving me hers within about a minute. So the next day I bought a fake wedding ring at the mall, its a great prop.
 

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thanks brett, i can imagine ill have to be very suave to pull it off though :)
 

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Have the waitress take the girls over large waters with lemon in it and have her tell the girls that "That gentleman there is NOT interested."

Then, when they look at you, toast them like you sent them a real drink.

They'll either come up to you and confront you, which is fun.. or you can walk up to them (they'll pay attention to you)..say something silly.. "Thats the new thing in Russia..everyone gives each other water..you're not Russian are you? Do I look Russian?" then just go with it..
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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