"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Any Fat DJs out there?
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Fat = Unattractive 99% of the time.
1% is the fat guys with lotsa $ or in very rare cases, extreme game.
Girls can be just as superficial as we can be, they'd rather rub up against a 6-pack then a keg.
EDIT: presence as in what you display, for example i know people that when they enter a room everyone notices them or pays attention to them, i just something they irradiate. confidence/being sure of yourself goes a long way.
stuka1939
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I have seen it occasionally too!DJsomeday said:
However, you have to ask yourself. Did the guy always look like that and maybe he was fit when they first started going out.
It is the same exact thing when I see decent looking guys walking around with fat women. Point being, she probably did not always look like that and got ugly after popping out a few kids and/or laziness.
It's not "all about" anything, or you'd need just that. Clearly body shape indicates genetic fitness and that will be a factor in the subconscious decision. Sure there's "SOME" blimps that get hot women, but that doesn't mean that it's IRRELEVANT.DJsomeday said:
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
WalkingStick
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It's possible, but you'll look and feel better if you're not fat.
Daddy The Pimp
Master Don Juan
I know you've heard this 100931209 times , but
LOOK + MONEY < TIGHT GAME
Fat guys have it complex , and dont let themselves try . Dont let themselves even spit that game that they have .
Im not talking about fat now , ill talk about ugly as fvck .
There's a guy i know , and i've winged him sometimes .
He's ugly as fvck . I dont have words to describe him . I dont want to describe him .
But , he pulls girls every time he wants . He's game is great . He's fvcking natural with high energy and testesterone that believes on himself and have high confidence .
So , dont let these beliefs limit your score .
Dont stop yourself , let yourself free , try this stuff for a year until you improve your bodylanguage , vocal projection and all game , than youll thank me .
Give yourself a try , dont fear rejection .
Im 7 or 8 . Some girls consider me 9 .
In the begining ( first 6-7 months ) , ive got a lot of rejections . But they didnt stop me .
Now im almost rejection proof . Because i know how to hit it , where to hit it and when . I know now which words i have to say . Youll know it too , after spending some time in field . Believe me , let yourself free , get out of comfort and youll thank yourself later .
Cheers
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
HalfAddict
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I do fine.
I get laid and I get all the numbers I want, it's 90% mental 10% physical.
The haters who say it's money and looks are just angry because they can only rely on money and looks.
I don't need money or looks.
and I believe it doesn't matter too much, quite a few girls would rather have a big guy near them rather then a small skinny guy.
But when it comes down to it, its how you act, how you present yourself and what you believe in.
typical
Master Don Juan
If it were survival of the fittest and you and Mr abs were the last two things left on the earth then mr abs would kill and eat your fat a$$ as your too lazy and slow to be able to do that to him.
The above is a extreme case, but ever wondered why fat people are looked down upon ??? Its because humans arent built to be fat, a little bit of fat is ok as we have decended from the hunter gatherer type of ancient humans and not from sit on a$$ getting fat type of humans.
When your 30/40/50 and have heart, blood pressure and other conditions then I'm sure no excuse will work then but by then its too late tough luck in this race of survival you just plain lost.
Just cause you can get pvssy today doesn't mean you become a fat lazy mofo cause 10 bucks says Mr abs could plain walk up to your woman and walk away with her while she's busy oogling his body.
Also when out there and your up against fat/ugly guy trying to pick up the same woman as Mr abs guess who can slap out who with the ****y jokes yep Mr abs can with his "arn't you late for the opening of the new dunkn donuts ?" lines and plenty more.
BTW dont hate on me I wasn't born on planet fat and ugly
HalfAddict
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Not entirely true my friend.
I was mister "ab's" at my smallest, which was 265. And being Mr. muscles boxer guy didn't cut it 100% of the time, hell it didn't do much to my game considering I was being hit in the head constantly and had the personality of a rock.
As a matter of fact your insight on this subject is very one sided, you said it yourself, you weren't born on planet fat and ugly. I have experienced and seen fat dudes get with good looking women who wouldn't leave their fatties side for anything.
As a matter of fact I know the 2 fatass uglier than hell dudes who are with some very fine looking women, hell one of them looks like he hasn't brushed his teeth once in his entire life.
The only thing you're really putting out is your opinion and your own flawed logic, you think women think like you, and you think ugly plus hot is an impossible feat.
But if you know anything, you know women think nothing like you.
They want love, companionship, yadda yadda all that jazz.
You most likely just wanna ****, and hey more power to ya.
But stick with what ya know instead of talking **** on an internet board eh?
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
wjh
Master Don Juan
Being fit is BETTER LOOKING, which means it can ONLY improve your ability to attract. So stop rationalizing the fact that you can be fat/stay fat and still pull chicks and please, for your own health, do something about your weight.
stuka1939
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Excellent post!!wjh said:
Nothing actually annoys me more than a short and out of shape looking guy. I feel like going up to these guys and saying,
"For God sakes man, you are already at a disadvantage for being short, why the hell are you fat, don't you want to attract cute women?"
Hey man you dont know the persons life story, it could have started when he was a little kid. Thats what happened to me, I ate complete **** during my elementary and middle school days thats why im big right now, I had no idea what I was doing.stuka1939 said:
Your quick to judge people stuka, even when you know nothing about them.
SmoothTalker
Master Don Juan
I use to eat a lot of crap too and was about 25 pounds overweight in middle school. I lost the vast majority of it quite quickly by getting my act together.
If you wanted to get fit you could do it in 1 year max with reasonable effort. Life story is just an excuse.
I gotta disagree with this for a few reasons.SmoothTalker said:
Self-Esteem and Confidence
i did a research study on obesity in uni and spent about 5 months interviewing people, gathering stats, gleaning other studies and articles... the whole kit and kaboodal.
people with your mentality, that getting fit is easy are all over the place. and in some respects yes you are right. at the very core of it, as long as you burn more calories than you injest, you lose weight.
The problem is that food releases endorphins, the "good feeling" hormone. Telling a fat guy to stop eating is the same as telling you to stop humping your girlfriend before you blow your load. Are you going to do it? Not Likely.
It IS possible to lose weight, but the average fat person isn't going to do it because they love the 'fix' of endorphins they get from eating, it's not LIKE an addiction, it IS an addiction. they don't care about their body image anymore, and even if they did want to lose weight, what do they have?
A whole friggin industry leeching all their money out of them that's what! with protein bar this, no carb that, low fat ads punching you in the face and salad every single ****ing way you go!
We perceive a person as weak and insecure when they're overweight. This becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy when they hear this, and then start to believe it themselves.
As DJ's we've had to build our confidence from the ground up, with girls, our lives, the very core of our beings. This confidence and higher self-esteem have led us to changing our looks.
How is a fat person going to build their confidence if everywhere they look all they see are fit people telling them they're weak and should join a gym. as if it were that easy.
This forum itself is proof that people need encouragement. If you posted a problem you had DJ'ing and people just gave you negative feedback, would you want to try again? Maybe, but you can only speak for yourself.
There's a joke i heard while interviewing people that i thought was both hillarious, and revealing
Scientists are testing to see if soundwaves can be used to help obese people lose fat. the experiment consists of a pair of scientist strapping down teh obese person to a chair, then proceeding to scream "Lose weight you fatty!" over and over again for a prolonged period of time.
Not really the highest respect we have for overweight people huh?
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.