You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
ExplainIt really is OVER for WidowHusbandCels.
Not sure if you are asking about the general expression or how it relates to this thread in particular. I think the original expression was something along the lines of "Its over for Incels" and it became something of recurring inside joke to change the phrase slightly to whatever situation was being discussed. Example if height was being discussed someone would say "Its over for HeightCels"Explain
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
As long as you feel confident that she had nothing to do with herself becoming a widow, I don't see why you would treat her differently from any other woman.I have a neighbor who moved into my neighborhood about 6 months ago and we have grown close the last few months. About a month ago she was over at my house and she told me that she had lost her husband about 10+ years ago. We are getting along great at this point, but I have no experience with this, Any useful advise would be appreciated.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
For a wife to become a widow, her husband dies; therefore it really is OVER for him.Explain
So have you actually dated a widow? I think you might be correct. But just wondering because I have never dated a widow. This woman was extremely attached to her late husband.I dont think there's any real difference in dating a widow
Wrong forum.She is 54
Any useful advise would be appreciated.
There are literally two pages of advice about this woman, so clearly people here are willing to give advice regardless of her age.Wrong forum.
Sosuave does not give advice on
- divorced women
- fat women
- single mothers
- ugly women
- women over 30
Sosuave only gives advice on hot women under 30. If she is hot and under 30 but smokes and / or has a small tattoo, we will accept that too, But anything else, you are on your own.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
That doesn’t mean the man has his life together.There are literally two pages of advice about this woman, so clearly people here are willing to give advice regardless of her age.
Nobody said it does. Your original argument was that this is the wrong forum because she is 54. My point is simply that if there are two pages of people giving advice about her then clearly the forum does give advice on women over 30.That doesn’t mean the man has his life together.
If a man doesn’t know how to handle a woman who has Great Grandson, he’s got bigger problems in life,
Thank you Clockwerk50! You are correct. There have been many post on this forum that talk about women older than 30. As I recall B excellent is probably 56 or 57.Nobody said it does. Your original argument was that this is the wrong forum because she is 54. My point is simply that if there are two pages of people giving advice about her then clearly the forum does give advice on women over 30.
Whether the man has his life together or not is a completely separate issue.
What in the heck are you talking about bad boy. The woman that I know that is a widow.That doesn’t mean the man has his life together.
If a man doesn’t know how to handle a woman who has Great Grandson, he’s got bigger problems in life,