"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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yesterday i saw this one girl from a dating site that i always thought was cute and messaged her. we exchanged some messages about movies and amusement parks, then i ask her if she would like to go out for coffee sometime? she emails me back 'SURE! IS WED OR THURS BETTER FOR YOU?' - i email her that wed is better for me, and to call me (then i leave her my number). she tells me that she will call me tomorrow (it's today now). she hasn't called yet - and i see she has logged on and off already today. is there anything i can do at this point to avoid the flake/blow off?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Not necessarily you're screwed.

Email her quick and say something came up that you can't make it. Get her number and then try to build rapport before even asking her on a date.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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well, she still flaked. no call.
unless she meant 'i'll call you later' as in, not tonight. i hate this type of behavior.
 
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Hi poohead.
I call u later in woman language = "I'm OK that u call me".
Why won't u call her? It's a test she wants to see if u have the balls to do it as she senses that u are a little on the shy side, even if she proposes to call u(in that case, it's highly likely that she will NOT call u), better to reassure her in ur masculinity by saying "No thanks, I will call u".
This exact situation happened a long time ago for me, I managed it as I'm advising u right now and I had one of the better LTR of all my life ;-)
 
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i never got her number - i just gave her mine.

i sent her this message, i'm not sure if this is a dj thing to say but here's the message i sent her:

you didn't call last night. it's really annoying when people don't do what they say they will. don't bother calling anymore.
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should i have sent that? i'm tired of not calling girls on their annoying flakey behavior. they fcking lie about everything.
 
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you didn't call last night. it's really annoying when people don't do what they say they will. don't bother calling anymore.
You let her know that she got to you and upset you.

Unless your objective was to truly have her not be interested in you anymore, this was a bad move.
 
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not putting up with second class behavior anymore. more men should do the same and then we wouldn't have to deal with all the crap women dish out all the time in dating.

i thought part of being a dj was to be able to walk away at any time, and respect yourself first and not put up with bad behavior from anyone. i don't really care if she calls. she had her chance.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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i thought part of being a dj was to be able to walk away at any time, and respect yourself first and not put up with bad behavior from anyone. i don't really care if she calls. she had her chance.
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It is. If you don't care about her anymore then just do that...walk away. No need to make a fuss or even tell her that you're done with her, because that shows she upset you enough to cause you to get some sort of revenge, however small it may be.
 
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it's weird how women lie all the time about little things like this - i'll call, or they flake out on a date - these are lies. and yet if you lie when you're in a relationship with them, about anything - the last girl i was with would not let it die that i lied about seeing 'walk the line' - they will never let you forget it. the double standard is just ridiculous.
 
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poohead said:
it's weird how women lie all the time about little things like this - i'll call, or they flake out on a date - these are lies. and yet if you lie when you're in a relationship with them, about anything - the last girl i was with would not let it die that i lied about seeing 'walk the line' - they will never let you forget it. the double standard is just ridiculous.
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To be fair, "I'll call you" could indeed be woman-speak for "I'm not going to call you". That's why it was mentioned upthread by someone that you should be the one getting the number and calling her. The vast majority of women expect this and want this out of the man. They want you to initiate. By putting the ball in her court you might have caused her interest to dwindle.

No worries, though. Just keep it in mind for next time. It sounds like this girl wasn't that big of a deal to begin with.
 
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poohead said:
i never got her number - i just gave her mine.

i sent her this message, i'm not sure if this is a dj thing to say but here's the message i sent her:

you didn't call last night. it's really annoying when people don't do what they say they will. don't bother calling anymore.

should i have sent that? i'm tired of not calling girls on their annoying flakey behavior. they fcking lie about everything.
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Little harsh on the words there poohead, but I agree with your goal there 100%. You were trying to tell her you ain't gonna take her ****, and like you said in your other post, more men need to do this..

I have been in this situation before, and what I did was say "Hey! I didn't hear from you last night.. You were prolly tied up and that worked out well because I was too. My good friend Sarah (make up some chicks name) is going through a divorce right now, having a hard time, and needed to talk to me. I'll talk to you later then! :)" (hmm, see, now shes wondering if Sarah is going to be a threat to her, rut row)..

After this, dont call her.. Let her wonder whats up with you, and if she is even remotely interested in you at all, you will hear from her soon! ;-)
 
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my inner game needs a lot of work. i'm quick to give people a piece of my mind, then i regret it later. i have to work on being cool and developing my observing ego
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Well you are a good man for being able to see your weaknesses and admit them.. Kudos for that..

I say this in all honesty, and I am not affiliated in any way; the best advise i can give you or anyone about improving their game is simply to go to sosuave.com and READ READ READ. The more you read there, the better your game will get. I speak from experience and speak with results. ;-)
 
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