Another Sexless LTR - How to stay?

[Lookatu]

Caring about her does not mean you have to be with her or be the one who fulfills her dreams. Sometimes the most loving and yet challenging thing to do is to be honest and let someone you love go.

I know you meant this for OP but this is the most powerful statement I've heard as it relates to me. Thank you so much as it's been therapeutic for me.
I've always had doubts and regrets for a woman whom I was madly in love with in my 20's whom I've lost and I never made peace with it or could rest. You've just brought me peace and rest with that with the statement above.

 

[MrPwr]

So last night I woke up grinding her ass hard***
(Subconscious me is apparently very randy) and she wasn't objecting or telling me to fk off so I decided fk it and I pinned her down prone (protection first, no babies) and then went to pound town.
She wasn't all "loved up" this morning or wanting affection/attention. Just normal morning girl.

Meanwhile I'm confused as.

 

[MrPwr]

On overcompensating. Pretty simple concept. I will try to convey it so that you can see it

It’s the same way that most women can tell a pick-up guy trying to have game. what his internal structure is, is in contrast to what he is being. Like the words and actions don’t match what her eyes and instincts are observing at a micro level. The vibe is off. His eyes don’t have the right set or his micro motions to his body language are off in slight ways. Women can be and are masters at social acuity.

Men are not so gifted as a rule. And are very likely to get a woman wrong. He listens to her words, explanations, reasonings to obtain truths or bottom line conclusions.
A woman especially, is overcompensating. The woman who dresses like a sexual dynamite package is not normally a high end sex package. she is presenting herself in a way that is designed to compete for men’s attention. It is not however an indicator of sexual mastery. Or even the idea that she will be overt in her quest to obtain sex.

My favorite is of course the average dressed, seemingly “average” attractive woman. She is many times more likely to be a master cok sucker. She wears her clothes well or even sometimes purposely un-flashy. Mostly she will have the girl next door wholesome look. This is the one that eats up men. Most likely to have the trait that wrecks weak men cloaked as bad dogs. The hidden beta is food.

Are you seeing it yet? All women are chameleons. They are not being evil. They are highly skilled at getting what they want/need out of men and life. Men are service creatures. For the most part they work hard and are way more dependable.

All women want sex and all women are having sex. Even if she has to masturbate every two days during lunch. She is still turned on by men all the time. Regardless of any and all past experiences.

The woman who says, “I’m don’t need as much sex” or “I’m not that sexual” is lying. She is highly sexual. Just not when it comes to you. You are old news and you were most likely easy to get.

She is overcompensating so she doesn’t have to have as much sex with you. You comment or ask about it and will get the same old lines men across the entire planet hear every day from their girlfriends and wives. Do you actually think your situation is new or in any way unique to many of us? You drop her in front of a man who turns her on and she will fuk like a rabbit. Every chance she gets. She won’t be able to stay away from him.

Yeah that makes total sense, I have seen, met and fvked the "averaged dressed, seemingly average attractive woman" and I can attest to her ability to suck the chrome off a tow hitch. She also wanted me to "stage a break in and rape" to fulfil a fantasy of hers. So they can be all kinds of crazy. I declined, as I'm too pretty for prison.
But I totally get it!
I think also I was a deluded before as I never considered this to apply to my current partner. She claims to never masturbate, but probably just lying. She is very much "**** oriented" for orgasm and it doesn't take much to get her there.

 

[Lookatu]

She claims to never masturbate, but probably just lying. She is very much "**** oriented" for orgasm and it doesn't take much to get her there.

This is probably true. There are women that only want an orgasm with an actual person. If you could get free pvssy at will, would you wanna masturbate too?

I find women that don't masturbate or hardly masturbate somewhat good because their ****oris is still sensitive for them to orgasm easily. The worst are the constant masturbators that uses all these dildos and vibrators that numbs their **** and loosens their pvssy. LOL

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Another Sexless LTR - How to stay?

This title tells everything that is wrong with this thread and it sort of piss me off too.
Why the fauuark doesn't anyone want this?

 

[MrPwr]

This is probably true. There are women that only want an orgasm with an actual person. If you could get free pvssy at will, would you wanna masturbate too?

I find women that don't masturbate or hardly masturbate somewhat good because their ****oris is still sensitive for them to orgasm easily. The worst are the constant masturbators that uses all these dildos and vibrators that numbs their **** and loosens their pvssy. LOL

Literally is the worst.
I'm not a small dude so when I fvk a chick who feels loose and hasn't had kids i'm like "where the giant dildo at?"
I guess it is the female version of porn for men. It ruins the real sexual experience for both of you.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Literally is the worst.
I'm not a small dude so when I fvk a chick who feels loose and hasn't had kids i'm like "where the giant dildo at?"
I guess it is the female version of porn for men. It ruins the real sexual experience for both of you.

Imagine if there's no huge dildos? That she's just huge like that? Sometimes its just not compatible.

 

[MrPwr]

Imagine if there's no huge dildos? That she's just huge like that? Sometimes its just not compatible.

Sometimes you would be correct. I have some great anecdotal evidence to back up my claims

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Sometimes you would be correct. I have some great anecdotal evidence to back up my claims

I met one like that. She was like 5'1" but vaginally she was huge.

 

[MrPwr]

Dropping in for an update.

Crushing it at work, got a 16% payrise with another coming after I deliver my current project.
Crushing the gym, went from 20% bodyfat to 12% and gained 5kg muscle (have receipts for this) and in a better state than I was @20y/o (my previous fitness peak)
Started going out more with friends.
Took my girl on a trip, planned & paid for everything.
Purchased my first investment property.

Learned a truckload about LTRs from Rian Stone. I jive with his content and delivery style so have seen the most success with this, likely due to congruency with my personality (each to their own)

Go figure, we now fork multiple times a week.
Even BJ's and hand jobs (which never used to happen).
I never get the bs excuses I was getting before, but I am also reading her better.

Anyway, if anyone finds this in the future, there is hope.
Don't bin a relationship until you are on top of your game and be hyper-critical of whether you are in-fact on top of your game.

 

[metalwater]

don't look back, you are not going that way.

she can ride with you as long as she behaves like she wants to.

when your rising women stick to you. when comes to the storm, not so much.

just keep rising and all else will follow on.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Dropping in for an update.

Crushing it at work, got a 16% payrise with another coming after I deliver my current project.
Crushing the gym, went from 20% bodyfat to 12% and gained 5kg muscle (have receipts for this) and in a better state than I was @20y/o (my previous fitness peak)
Started going out more with friends.
Took my girl on a trip, planned & paid for everything.
Purchased my first investment property.

Learned a truckload about LTRs from Rian Stone. I jive with his content and delivery style so have seen the most success with this, likely due to congruency with my personality (each to their own)

Go figure, we now fork multiple times a week.
Even BJ's and hand jobs (which never used to happen).
I never get the bs excuses I was getting before, but I am also reading her better.

Anyway, if anyone finds this in the future, there is hope.
Don't bin a relationship until you are on top of your game and be hyper-critical of whether you are in-fact on top of your game.

Stay focused on your physical and financial

 

[Zimbabwe]

While that is an option (dumping) I detest the idea of taking any of what she has worked for. I know that sentiment isn't shared by the wider female population but those are my personal principles.
As for the dumping I would prefer to try repair.
If I could figure out how establish myself as... frame bearer? despite my current situation, even once and maintain it even for just a short time then I know it could be done.

While I do respect your integrity, you need to be looking out for your best interests in this situation. She obviously doesn't have high IL for you.

 

[MrPwr]

While I do respect your integrity, you need to be looking out for your best interests in this situation. She obviously doesn't have high IL for you.

Thanks for your comment.
That statement you quoted from my earlier post...feels like a lifetime ago.
A lot of what I said before is probably not even relevant now, so much has changed. And I have learned a lot about her along the way.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

We don't like "withholding" around here. The real reason its done is pretty bad. She can do it if she wants but chooses not to. She doesn't think you will go anywhere and you can't make her.

Its done because the situation is more about "control" and she does not really like you.

 

[bat soup]

G'day!
I recently dropped a red, and it hit bloody hard.

I have been in an LTR with a bird for 4+ years.
For years I have, like a good little AFC, accepted her rejections for sex and her reasoning as fair and that her needs (though frustrating) came before mine, even being a good little worker slave, built her a new kitchen and got a "thanks."
Late last year I proposed. Not sure if I subconsciously thought that she was not-intimate because I wasn't showing enough commitment, or for some other silly reason.

Dropped a giant rock on her dainty hand, well more than I could afford.
I got a "yes" and a pash and that was it. But I was still blue pilled, so I didn't put up a fight.

But after a few months it was unbearable.
With few other options and the social conditioning of "talking will make it better" I reverted to overtly communicating my dissatisfaction with her lack of interest/attraction/sex.
I have never, in any relationship, had to beg for it. But I did, and felt so gross that It turned me off.
This was my lowest point and I went looking for answers and found the manosphere.

I read "laws of attraction" and a colleague put me on to "the rational male" which were my red pill.

I am an undergrad, still with 2yrs to complete.
I have a good job/employer but I also can't work much due to studies. The more I work, the less study I get done. and the sooner I graduate, the sooner I can make BANK.

Right now I am ENTIRELY living in her frame. She currently earns a lot, has her house with equity and is the provider in our relationship. It wasn't always the case, when we met I was in the early stages of my career working full time and completely independent.

She is 33 (im 30) and wants kids, and we agreed that if kids were on the table for us that my degree would happen now or never, and better for the kids for it to happen. So we agreed that she would work and I would live rent free with her to get my degree asap so her eggs don't shrivel up.

Then the sex stopped like someone flipped a switch. She was never highly sexual, but when we lived apart I was at least getting it a few times a month. Which even back then I was dissatisfied with but our vastly different schedules were mostly to blame.

How do I get out of her frame, and get her into mine, is it salvageable?
Or am I better off splitting now, while she still has a chance to have kids with someone else/on her own? << This is a big issue for me. I don't want to **** her over. She is still very important to me.
We might as well be housemates. Actually I have had housemates that I ****ed more.
I would rather stay, and fix it. We have literally no other issues than her lack of attraction for me at present.

TLDR:
She is the breadwinner - I am in her frame
I'm nearing my peak SMV - she is on her way down
She is not ****ing - I want the sexytime

Thanks for making it through that novel!

Why not drop her off at a petrol station and then just drive away?

 

[Epimanes]

My new rule since my ex of 25yrs left me (lived on scraps sexually for the last 7 yrs pf our marriage).... new rule is.. women are to make my dyck hard not my life.... if my current gf starts making my life harder than my dyck..m she's gone.... simple as that.

Kids will NOT make this better.... do not fall into this trap.

You will need to increase your value so she feels she will lose you before you ever have kids.. otherwise she will lose respect for you.... likely already has... and can continue to use you for an emotional tampon then one day flush you when she finds a man that won't put up with her ****....

If there is any contempt ... its basicly over at that point and your kicking a dead horse... good luck coming back from that. It will likely only be a matter of time.

Get your **** together...

Epi

 

[ubercat]

I couldn't do it. I ve dated starfish and that never lasted long. And even starfish are at least Mickey D's as opposed to a famine. It's not the lack of V it's the blatant disrespect

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I couldn't do it. I ve dated starfish and that never lasted long. And even starfish are at least Mickey D's as opposed to a famine. It's not the lack of V it's the blatant disrespect

True! A starfish that wants to do it is much better than being trapped in a "withholding" situation.

 

[manfrombelow]

My new rule is.. women are to make my dyck hard not my life

Man, this should be framed in golden frame and put on the front page of SS.

"Women are to make my d!ck hard, not my life."

@OP:

So by somehow updating your level, your woman started to give you sex again. Well, in the mean time, congratulations. You have just learn all female nature the hard way. Their so-called "love" is always, no exception, conditional.