diplomatic_lies
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I've noticed while most guys here are blaming the woman or calling the man an AFC, nobody has actually offered any sympathy to the baby...
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I think what you are describing was called a "father" at one time. My gut (and a little cynicism) tells me that this guy is just "her baby's daddy."penkitten said:wouldnt a righteous man just take his own child out of it and divorce her quietly
and quickly?
I thought that would go without saying.diplomatic_lies said:I've noticed while most guys here are blaming the woman or calling the man an AFC, nobody has actually offered any sympathy to the baby...
The expression "better off dead" came to mind.Francisco d'Anconia said:I thought that would go without saying.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Sad yet possibly true in a morbid kind of way.Vulpine said:The expression "better off dead" came to mind...
See, you thought of the environment and future the kids are facing too, didn't you?Francisco d'Anconia said:Sad yet possibly true in a morbid kind of way.
Absolutely. People are having children mostly because they can and seldom because they want to. Of course I'm talking about people who aren't in an established, committed relationship. It's not commonplace to come across couples who are rushing into marriage who aren't pregnant already.Vulpine said:See, you thought of the environment and future the kids are facing too, didn't you?
This is especially true in my country, where some women have ten children in order to get government support.Francisco d'Anconia said:Absolutely. People are having children mostly because they can and seldom because they want to. Of course I'm talking about people who aren't in an established, committed relationship. It's not commonplace to come across couples who are rushing into marriage who aren't pregnant already.
i remember when i was small, fathers were fathers and not just baby daddies.Francisco d'Anconia said:I think what you are describing was called a "father" at one time. My gut (and a little cynicism) tells me that this guy is just "her baby's daddy."
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
i did on page one where i said poor kid.diplomatic_lies said:I've noticed while most guys here are blaming the woman or calling the man an AFC, nobody has actually offered any sympathy to the baby...
A few years ago we were finding generations of families who were collecting government aid as their sole means of income. There would sometimes be three generations of families living in the same house, all collecting aid.djbr said:This is especially true in my country, where some women have ten children in order to get government support.
It may be perceived as an authoritarian measure, but it's necessary. People have children they can't care and/or provide for, and that makes a mess in the whole society.
this is what i deal with every day at work (hud apartment complex)Francisco d'Anconia said:Perhaps, but I didn't see the part in the constitution that said that everyone else had to support them with our taxes...![]()
Wasn't that the premise of the show Jessica Alba starred in, Dark Angel?diplomatic_lies said:Well the government could take over raising kids. All children would be raised in government facilities, bred from test tubes. Of course kids won't understand the meaning of love, but hey, gotta make sacrifices. We will create the ultimate society and conquer the world!ahahahahahahahahahhahshudsiojfsd!!!!!
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Do-Dee-Doo-Doo, Do-Dee-Doo-Doo, oooooooEEEEEOooooo..... :nervous:THE_ADDMAN said:did anyone notice that the guy was named "Deangelo"?
coincidence?![]()
diplomatic_lies said:Dunno, I got the idea from Huxely's "Brave New World". Its a great book, about a Utopian society where everyone is happy and satisfied, but complex emotions like love and care are illegal.