"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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An Interesting Take on the "Do Looks Matter?" Debate

Do Looks Matter?

  • Yes, because only physically attractive guys can get women.

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • No, all you need is game.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Looks and game work in tandem. Your looks may get her attention, but you need game to keep her

    Votes: 10 90.9%

  • Total voters
    11
  • Poll closed .

penkitten

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Hey oldtimers, was mystery the one who wore the pirate shirt with puffy sleeves?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Because every point you made was pointless.
No it wasn't. Guys one this forum will say a lot of things about PUA gurus, however you will never here anybody on here they pulls chicks off their looks. If they could pull chicks just off of their personality alone, then there would have never been The Mystery Method, Real Social Dynamics, or Bang.

I did not dodge anything.
Yes, you did.

I skimmed through your lengthy post
Since when did six paragraphs and a sentence become War and Peace? I have long posts in my approach journal and this my friend isn't a "long," post by any means. Unless of course you have ADHD.

and summarized my rebuttal in a few sentences.
In that rebuttual, you didn't say ****.

And to answer your question, the boot camp provided in the DJ Bible was free and I did it independently for a while.
The DJ Bible is cool, but comparing it to in field instruction from dudes who do this sh*t for a living is a little absurd. It's analogous to saying that you get a 175 on the LSAT simply going to the library and studying an LSAT prep book as opposed to taking a course on how to take the LSAT from Kaplan, Princeton Review, or Blueprint.

But to join a flock of sheep who blindly follow these scam artists, no.
How do scam artists stay in business of over ten years?

I'm beginning university this upcoming semester so it's busy for me this time of the year.
1) Who cares?

2) I didn't ask.

3) Unless you started school on the 4th, you still should be on your winter break.

4) Why did you go off topic.


I apologize if I'm unable to respond to your posts in a timely manner.
When did I say or imply anything about you not replying to my posts in a timely manner?

I hope that does not pinch another nerve.
Yet another futile attempt at deflection.
 

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Unless of course you have ADHD.

I take it you did not read the posts where I stated that I had errands to run or that I have a busy week. What makes you think someone like you who has his head stuck up his ass would even attempt to rebuttal any counter argument claim I give?

By the way, breaking down each sentence bits by bits only proves how buttmad you are. I'm still not apologizing for insulting your idols.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I take it you did not read the posts where I stated that I had errands to run or that I have a busy week.
I didn't ask, nor did I care. That was your lame ass attempt at ducking the points I brought up.

What makes you think someone like you who has his head stuck up his ass would even attempt to rebuttal any counter argument claim I give?
I didn't and you just realize that there's no logical way you counter any point that I brought, which explains why you brought up sh*t that wasn't even germane to the conversation.

By the way, breaking down each sentence bits by bits only proves how buttmad you are.
It only goes to prove your idiocy.

I'm still not apologizing for insulting your idols.
Again, going completely and totally off topic with some sh*t that wasn't even in the initial conversation. When did I ever ask for an apology?
 

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I'd like the phrase "Turning love into a science" It makes coming up with pickup lines sounds like winning the nobel prizes
 

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Do looks matter will always be a grey area. I think people should except that as fact and we can hash out or talk about why it is
 

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No, looks doesn't matter. Would you be with a hot girl or a girl with a good personality? I'd much rather banging the one with good personality.
 

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The ones with good personality are almost always fat or not good looking at all. The problem we face today is that there is no longer a sweet spot. At this stage in life I would settle for a downgrade in looks (within reason) for an excellent personality but the sweet spot has disappeared. My formula:

"Quality of character is inversely proportional to good looks."
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I didn't ask, nor did I care. That was your lame ass attempt at ducking the points I brought up.



I didn't and you just realize that there's no logical way you counter any point that I brought, which explains why you brought up sh*t that wasn't even germane to the conversation.



It only goes to prove your idiocy.



Again, going completely and totally off topic with some sh*t that wasn't even in the initial conversation. When did I ever ask for an apology?

You are so buttmad. lmfao

I take it you never went to college, or at least a university.

What's wrong?



...Afraid I might steal your girl?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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This community is S.A.D. if you keep on worshiping these P.U.A. guru. They're all scammers trying to get your money. FYI, It's called talent not games anybody could out duel these jokes with just personality. Take for example, I let you carry a ***** load of lines with you for you to use at your disposal. I can beat you with just being myself.
 

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A couple things come to mind from watching the video:

1) When Brandon says he gets approached a couple times every time he "goes out", does that mean every time he leaves the house or every time he goes out to a club? Because I would say the former would be pretty impressive, while the latter would not, necessarily.

2) Brandon considers "proximity" or "eye contact" an approach by a female. I would say no, that is not an approach. When he talks about the girl touching his arm repeatedly, yeah I would consider that an approach.

3) This Todd dude is not tall and does not have the look Brandon has. It doesn't look like Todd works out much, but even if he did he is never going to have the looks the other guy does.
 

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Let's not get hung up on Mystery here; I think he looks like a douche but so what. The other 3 guys (Tyler, etc etc) are all dressed top notch in those photos and have a good look on their faces. That's already WAY more attractive than the average guy.

So yeah, they aren't models but they've got enough looks for a woman to not turn them down immediately, or to give them a 2nd chance.

I'm noticing the same thing lately, my face has improved a bit in the last year and now girls tend to give me 2nd dates even if I screwed up.
 

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I go to this Starbucks in my neighborhood every so often to read books and just chill and work on some stuff. Love seeing all the different ladies walking in and working there. There is this really cute girl with a nice personality. She's not super hot, she just cute like a 5-6, but has a award winning personality so far. I heard she has a boyfriend so I don't try and game her. If we naturally get in a short convo we will talk, but I am being respectful, so many other ladies in that joint there is no need to go for the one who is taken
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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