penkitten
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Hey oldtimers, was mystery the one who wore the pirate shirt with puffy sleeves?
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
An Interesting Take on the "Do Looks Matter?" Debate
- Thread starter Maximus Rex
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Atom Smasher
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Maximus Rex
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No it wasn't. Guys one this forum will say a lot of things about PUA gurus, however you will never here anybody on here they pulls chicks off their looks. If they could pull chicks just off of their personality alone, then there would have never been The Mystery Method, Real Social Dynamics, or Bang.
Yes, you did.
Since when did six paragraphs and a sentence become War and Peace? I have long posts in my approach journal and this my friend isn't a "long," post by any means. Unless of course you have ADHD.
In that rebuttual, you didn't say ****.
The DJ Bible is cool, but comparing it to in field instruction from dudes who do this sh*t for a living is a little absurd. It's analogous to saying that you get a 175 on the LSAT simply going to the library and studying an LSAT prep book as opposed to taking a course on how to take the LSAT from Kaplan, Princeton Review, or Blueprint.
How do scam artists stay in business of over ten years?
1) Who cares?
2) I didn't ask.
3) Unless you started school on the 4th, you still should be on your winter break.
4) Why did you go off topic.
When did I say or imply anything about you not replying to my posts in a timely manner?
Yet another futile attempt at deflection.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
I swear he used to wear a puffy pirate shirt.
SeymourCake
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I take it you did not read the posts where I stated that I had errands to run or that I have a busy week. What makes you think someone like you who has his head stuck up his ass would even attempt to rebuttal any counter argument claim I give?
By the way, breaking down each sentence bits by bits only proves how buttmad you are. I'm still not apologizing for insulting your idols.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Maximus Rex
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I didn't ask, nor did I care. That was your lame ass attempt at ducking the points I brought up.
I didn't and you just realize that there's no logical way you counter any point that I brought, which explains why you brought up sh*t that wasn't even germane to the conversation.
It only goes to prove your idiocy.
Again, going completely and totally off topic with some sh*t that wasn't even in the initial conversation. When did I ever ask for an apology?
PeasantPlayer
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Do looks matter will always be a grey area. I think people should except that as fact and we can hash out or talk about why it is
Atom Smasher
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The ones with good personality are almost always fat or not good looking at all. The problem we face today is that there is no longer a sweet spot. At this stage in life I would settle for a downgrade in looks (within reason) for an excellent personality but the sweet spot has disappeared. My formula:
"Quality of character is inversely proportional to good looks."
"Quality of character is inversely proportional to good looks."
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Atom Smasher
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I did a search and didn't find him in a puffy shirt. You're not thinking of Seinfeld, are you? I know they did an episode on that.
SeymourCake
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You are so buttmad. lmfao
I take it you never went to college, or at least a university.
What's wrong?
...Afraid I might steal your girl?
penkitten
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penkitten
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penkitten
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
There you go... that last one qualifies as a puffy pirate shirt. Mystery certainly got his 15 minutes of fame.
This community is S.A.D. if you keep on worshiping these P.U.A. guru. They're all scammers trying to get your money. FYI, It's called talent not games anybody could out duel these jokes with just personality. Take for example, I let you carry a ***** load of lines with you for you to use at your disposal. I can beat you with just being myself.
zekko
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A couple things come to mind from watching the video:
1) When Brandon says he gets approached a couple times every time he "goes out", does that mean every time he leaves the house or every time he goes out to a club? Because I would say the former would be pretty impressive, while the latter would not, necessarily.
2) Brandon considers "proximity" or "eye contact" an approach by a female. I would say no, that is not an approach. When he talks about the girl touching his arm repeatedly, yeah I would consider that an approach.
3) This Todd dude is not tall and does not have the look Brandon has. It doesn't look like Todd works out much, but even if he did he is never going to have the looks the other guy does.
1) When Brandon says he gets approached a couple times every time he "goes out", does that mean every time he leaves the house or every time he goes out to a club? Because I would say the former would be pretty impressive, while the latter would not, necessarily.
2) Brandon considers "proximity" or "eye contact" an approach by a female. I would say no, that is not an approach. When he talks about the girl touching his arm repeatedly, yeah I would consider that an approach.
3) This Todd dude is not tall and does not have the look Brandon has. It doesn't look like Todd works out much, but even if he did he is never going to have the looks the other guy does.
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Let's not get hung up on Mystery here; I think he looks like a douche but so what. The other 3 guys (Tyler, etc etc) are all dressed top notch in those photos and have a good look on their faces. That's already WAY more attractive than the average guy.
So yeah, they aren't models but they've got enough looks for a woman to not turn them down immediately, or to give them a 2nd chance.
I'm noticing the same thing lately, my face has improved a bit in the last year and now girls tend to give me 2nd dates even if I screwed up.
So yeah, they aren't models but they've got enough looks for a woman to not turn them down immediately, or to give them a 2nd chance.
I'm noticing the same thing lately, my face has improved a bit in the last year and now girls tend to give me 2nd dates even if I screwed up.
PeasantPlayer
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I go to this Starbucks in my neighborhood every so often to read books and just chill and work on some stuff. Love seeing all the different ladies walking in and working there. There is this really cute girl with a nice personality. She's not super hot, she just cute like a 5-6, but has a award winning personality so far. I heard she has a boyfriend so I don't try and game her. If we naturally get in a short convo we will talk, but I am being respectful, so many other ladies in that joint there is no need to go for the one who is taken
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.