"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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an AFC move?

david90

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Is using compliment as an opening line an AFC move?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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who cares ?

u dont have to follow DJism right to the last drop, being a DJ sets u apart from the rest, try it, and see if it works, if it does, then use it.
 

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I think the thing is that most women will be used to hearing compliments as opening lines. Therefore, if you want to stand apart from the rest of the pack, try something different.
 

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assess the situation...
if it feels right to open with a compliment then do so

do what feels natural and complements your PU game
 

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All girls are different and the fact is: most girls love to hear compliments. Even so when they hear them every day. Just don't overload them with compliments making them think they have you wrapped around their little finger.

If at first you come off as a nice guy, they will not scream, hold their skirts up and run away while yelling: NICE GUY ALERT!! NICE GUY ALERT!!!

It is your attitude in general that makes them decide you are clingy, needy or just nice.

So in short the answer to your question: no.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Just don't say something stupid like "Hey, you have nice tits!!"

Say something sophisticated like "I was watching you from a distance with my binoculars and you seem to carry yourself well and have very good posture".:cool:

How many men have used this line before? Not too many!!
 

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I think using a compliment is a great way to start a conversation. Just don't do it too much, that would be AFC.
 

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when u first lock eyes with a girl, for how long do you maintain it? Should U lock eyes until she breaks off to show dominant?

Is it an AFC move to break eye contact before she does?
 

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You need to understand the reason for EC.

EC is meant to show interest from both sides. Not to test who is the dominant one. Keep it light. Don't start staring like an idiot waiting for her to look away cuz you'll look like a maniak and you'll freak her out.

If you catch her eye, smile. If she smiles back, aproach.
 

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ok

I did read an article saying that u must show dominant & confident by making the girl break EC first.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I do understand the reason that article was written but not everything you read should be taken litterally.

Usually a girl would lock eyes, and then immediately look away with a little smile on her face. If you look away before this, you'll look like a nervous wreck that was caught staring.

However, if the girl does not look away immediately, I would never get into the contest of seeing who will look away first. I either approach or smile at her and focus elsewhere (my friends, my book, whatever).
 

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Would u still approach and try for phone# if a girl seems to avoid EC?
 

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Personally I wouldn't go for a # if i never even had EC.

I usually wait for at least EC before I approach. Some guys would disagree with me and do a cold approach but I have never liked the cold approach so I can't and shouldn't give you advise on that.
 
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