"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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an AFC move?

david90

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Is using compliment as an opening line an AFC move?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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who cares ?

u dont have to follow DJism right to the last drop, being a DJ sets u apart from the rest, try it, and see if it works, if it does, then use it.
 

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I think the thing is that most women will be used to hearing compliments as opening lines. Therefore, if you want to stand apart from the rest of the pack, try something different.
 

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assess the situation...
if it feels right to open with a compliment then do so

do what feels natural and complements your PU game
 

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All girls are different and the fact is: most girls love to hear compliments. Even so when they hear them every day. Just don't overload them with compliments making them think they have you wrapped around their little finger.

If at first you come off as a nice guy, they will not scream, hold their skirts up and run away while yelling: NICE GUY ALERT!! NICE GUY ALERT!!!

It is your attitude in general that makes them decide you are clingy, needy or just nice.

So in short the answer to your question: no.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Just don't say something stupid like "Hey, you have nice tits!!"

Say something sophisticated like "I was watching you from a distance with my binoculars and you seem to carry yourself well and have very good posture".:cool:

How many men have used this line before? Not too many!!
 

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I think using a compliment is a great way to start a conversation. Just don't do it too much, that would be AFC.
 

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when u first lock eyes with a girl, for how long do you maintain it? Should U lock eyes until she breaks off to show dominant?

Is it an AFC move to break eye contact before she does?
 

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You need to understand the reason for EC.

EC is meant to show interest from both sides. Not to test who is the dominant one. Keep it light. Don't start staring like an idiot waiting for her to look away cuz you'll look like a maniak and you'll freak her out.

If you catch her eye, smile. If she smiles back, aproach.
 

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ok

I did read an article saying that u must show dominant & confident by making the girl break EC first.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I do understand the reason that article was written but not everything you read should be taken litterally.

Usually a girl would lock eyes, and then immediately look away with a little smile on her face. If you look away before this, you'll look like a nervous wreck that was caught staring.

However, if the girl does not look away immediately, I would never get into the contest of seeing who will look away first. I either approach or smile at her and focus elsewhere (my friends, my book, whatever).
 

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Would u still approach and try for phone# if a girl seems to avoid EC?
 

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Personally I wouldn't go for a # if i never even had EC.

I usually wait for at least EC before I approach. Some guys would disagree with me and do a cold approach but I have never liked the cold approach so I can't and shouldn't give you advise on that.
 
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