"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

Read more...

Am I being gamed back?

Trump

Banned
Joined
Mar 12, 2011
Messages
3,000
Reaction score
1,669
Went on a 3rd date open the date with a kiss. Everything went swimmingly. You know light banter, asking about my dating life, infinte touching and kissing.
She kept contact the next day and i offered dinner in a few days time, at my place she seemed ecstatic asked what i was going to cook her and then vanished.

Lol

What to make of this? Low interest? Gaming me?
You waited too long to have sex with her. 3rd date is when it should have happened, By the time you offered dinner in a few days time, she could already been pregnant by another guy.

You have to strike when the iron is hot. Unless you are a Hollywood Star, don’t assume it will always be hot.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

Read more...

Spaz

Banned
Joined
Jan 14, 2018
Messages
8,337
Reaction score
6,878
You waited too long to have sex with her. 3rd date is when it should have happened, By the time you offered dinner in a few days time, she could already been pregnant by another guy.

You have to strike when the iron is hot. Unless you are a Hollywood Star, don’t assume it will always be hot.
Mostly true.

But there's some women due to her upbringing might require additional time and effort.

If OP is looking to just bang, then 3 dates should be a deal breaker, especially in cities.
 

ace88

Don Juan
Joined
Oct 7, 2014
Messages
73
Reaction score
11
You waited too long to have sex with her. 3rd date is when it should have happened, By the time you offered dinner in a few days time, she could already been pregnant by another guy.

You have to strike when the iron is hot. Unless you are a Hollywood Star, don’t assume it will always be hot.
The painters were in town 3rd date
 

Mazer

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 5, 2017
Messages
801
Reaction score
890
Age
48
Third date and just a kiss? You should at least be making out with the woman by the third date. Some women will go out with you, spend your money and then when it’s time to “Netflix and chill” they disappear because they don’t want to have sex with you and it’s usually because she is still banging her ex or she is bored. I have never had any long term success with women who make you wait and like they say, the wait is never worth it.
 

zekko

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 6, 2009
Messages
16,755
Reaction score
9,955
You gotta be careful with her getting comfortable though cause then you have one foot in the friend zone and the other on a banana peel. Thinking back to every girl that came right out and admitted to me without me asking, “I feel completely safe and trust you”, I never slept with a single one of them.
I'm not saying that you need to wait six months. But I think "comfort" as a strategy is underrated here. Certainly it's a balancing act, and you don't want to be all comfort and no excitement/attraction. But comfort is a factor that should be included in there somewhere.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

Read more...

Tilex

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 12, 2018
Messages
899
Reaction score
1,029
I have certain standards when it comes to this sh!t.
And you should too!

My standards = progress
I have to feel like I'm not wasting my time.
If the third date or third meeting feels worse than the first date, I'm dropping her ASAP.
This is not progress, it's a setback.
 

ace88

Don Juan
Joined
Oct 7, 2014
Messages
73
Reaction score
11
Third date and just a kiss? You should at least be making out with the woman by the third date. Some women will go out with you, spend your money and then when it’s time to “Netflix and chill” they disappear because they don’t want to have sex with you and it’s usually because she is still banging her ex or she is bored. I have never had any long term success with women who make you wait and like they say, the wait is never worth it.
Yeah making out not kissing. I say kissing i mean make out.
 

ace88

Don Juan
Joined
Oct 7, 2014
Messages
73
Reaction score
11
I have certain standards when it comes to this sh!t.
And you should too!

My standards = progress
I have to feel like I'm not wasting my time.
If the third date or third meeting feels worse than the first date, I'm dropping her ASAP.
This is not progress, it's a setback.
Same here. There is constant progress when we are toghether.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

Murk

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 17, 2017
Messages
4,359
Reaction score
3,322
Age
37
Location
London
Not gonna bother reading all the posts here.

She likely had a guy in her life that came back into the frame, you can’t win against this. Or, she just wasn’t feeling you. Either way you need to dust yourself off and keep it moving.
 

ubercat

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 6, 2015
Messages
3,671
Reaction score
2,309
Location
Australia
Y not go dual strategy. Treat it like a flake. Reach out a week later with a Hi. In the meantime stack more plates. One of the many benefits of plating is u don't care too much when they give it up as your getting plenty anyway. Her better option may fall through she LL be all worked up and bounce back to you and you LL be nuts deep. Happened to moi many times. Seldom stable but it all adds to your rotation and experience.
 
Top