"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Am I an orbiter or not gaming her correctly?

Knight of Roses

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Recently added an ex-girlfriend onto my plate rotation. My game has significantly improved since she broke up with me 6 months ago. However, for reasons I cannot explain, I just subconsciously can't game her the same way I am gaming other girls.

While with other plates I only contact them during times where I want to hang out, (i.e. I'll text to set up plans), I find myself attempting to play more mind games with this ex. I feel that given our history, I am entitled to more of her attention and hence she should be reaching out to me, after all, it was her that reached out to me 4 months after no contact to re-initiate things.

Am I an orbiter in her world or should I just forgo those feelings and game her like I do rest of my plates?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Since you were together and she knows you in some degree, don't employ any game, just set up opportunities for sex to happen on your terms.
Otherwise yes, you are only one of her orbiters.
 

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This is the emotional confusion that happens when you decide to pick up garbage food and taste it again.
 

Murk

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Just contact her less then she contacts you, care less, see other girls more, fvck her good and selfishly when you get the chance. No going down on her.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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mrgoodstuff

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Just contact her less then she contacts you, care less, see other girls more, fvck her good and selfishly when you get the chance. No going down on her.
What's your reason for not going down on her? I know some women are fvcked In the head and you can't treat them too good. I was wondering your reason .
 

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What's your reason for not going down on her? I know some women are fvcked In the head and you can't treat them too good. I was wondering your reason .
Because it sounds like she's playing a game here, definitely seeing other guy/s, I would not get pleasure going down on an ex gf that I'm now plating who is seeing other guys.

You can already see OP is gonna lose this game, I was just trying to help him. Why would you want to give selfless pleasure to this ex? I personally would not bother even plating her.
 

mrgoodstuff

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Because it sounds like she's playing a game here, definitely seeing other guy/s, I would not get pleasure going down on an ex gf that I'm now plating who is seeing other guys.

You can already see OP is gonna lose this game, I was just trying to help him. Why would you want to give selfless pleasure to this ex? I personally would not bother even plating her.
Your right. That's the game in play .
 

mrgoodstuff

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I think op needs to play this game how it's supposed to be played.
 

mrgoodstuff

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The required game is the same as "AMS" ( Alpha Male Strategies ). He's a bastard but his shyt works.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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mrgoodstuff

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All that matters is that she comes when he calls.

That's not chasing. Thats control.

I personally do not want all of my plates chasing me constantly. If they come when I reach out and I don't hear much from them otherwise, I consider it a blessing.
Agree. You should be able to call and figure out when your phvcking in the next couple of hours. It won't be this weekly schedule and squeezing you in a time slot. They will make the time.

It's best if plates prioritize you where you can get it when you want it.
 
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