AlexLefty’s 3 Month Vegas Immersion Journal of Awesomeness

[MrWiggles]

You should definitely hit up the pools for some gaming also. I was there at the pool and talked to some women. Hung out with a few later that night and am going out with one next week since we live close to each other. The pool is kinda like the club scene except you can be seen better and I think that helps a bit

 

[skinnyguy]

Yup. I went to the day club at Mandalay Bay. Not only were the women insanely hot, but it was easier to game. DJ Mustard was spinning and the weather was perfect.

Later that night I went to Marquee and saw RSD Luke, it was pretty cool. Me and my friend had like 7 girls talking to us but unfortunately they all left early.

 

[AlexLefty1]

Yoooo that's dope! Yeah we gotta get into some day clubs, and all clubs in general ASAP

 

[AlexLefty1]

Went out to XS tonight! Firstly, this place was ****ing awesome. Vegas is so much better than Utah. Every time we go to a new venue I almost need a shell shock period to adjust. In terms of approaches and such, I'm only going to focus on the positives. Because I honestly feel like I did ****, but I berate myself too much so I'm focusing on the positive.

I opened a couple sets, which was actually really hard for some reason. But before we got to the club I did like 5 approaches in like 10 minutes on the street, so that was good. I'm obviously getting better at doing approaches faster and more consistently, at least on the street. Remember my posts from before where it took 3 hours to do 3? So, much improved. I also managed my energy pretty well in the club. I was in a good mood and everything -- dancing to the music and staying upbeat. My biggest problem is just inertia. For some reason there is this inertia with approaching right away. So for me it's key to approach right away and lower my time of reaction. But overall definitely a good night, and it was one step forward!

I'm doing day game tomorrow, and then going to the clubs as well.

Talk to you soon,
Alex

 

[AlexLefty1]

So this was a very interesting day. I woke up around 1pm and went out to do some daygame on the strip around 3pm, by myself. It's so much harder going by yourself because you don't have a "home base" so to speak. But, I actually really enjoy it because I know it's something I have to get used to, especially for when I move back to Utah.

So, it pains me to say this, but I only did two approaches that day. However, the second was the longest interaction I've had so far and ended up in a makeout on the strip. I got her SnapChat. Looking to set up a threesome.

Then I went to Marquee that night with Brandon. It was our first time there. The staff is a little pretentious but it's a nice venue. Only did a couple of approaches, but I'm happy with it; it's 250% better than what I could've done a week ago. One thing I've noticed is that I do an approach pretty quickly, and then wait too long before I do more. I need something like 3 or 5 quick ones to get warmed up, or rather, into the "it's ok to talk to strangers" mindset.
Fast forward to the night of 6/14/16 and I went to Omnia by myself. Actually, I just got back. I was extremely nervous being alone, so I only did a couple of approaches. I know what you're thinking, but I honestly consider it progress because there's a huge disparity between going alone and with your friends. I stayed until closing which forced me to be social. I talked to a number of dudes though, and tried to just be friendly. The past few months have made me an extremely awkward person, so just being able to be social is pretty cool.

I'm kicking it into high gear though! I've basically postponed all my other focuses until I get some significant gains in pickup. So I'm going out everyday, and every night. Thus, I'll just be getting a few hours of sleep and then I'm off to Marquee day club -- my first day club. I'll check in afterwards.

Talk to you soon,
Alex

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

I went to Vegas Memorial Day Weekend. Pu$$y was being thrown at me the three days I was there. I knocked down 5 broads during that trip. I definitely have to make a trip back to Vegas.

I know that you are having a blast!

 

[MrWiggles]

I went to Vegas Memorial Day Weekend. Pu$$y was being thrown at me the three days I was there. I knocked down 5 broads during that trip. I definitely have to make a trip back to Vegas.

I know that you are having a blast!

Very nice. I should have been where you were

 

[AlexLefty1]

Being sick...

So fvck, my roommate got sick, or food poisoning or something few days ago and then I came down with it as well yesterday. We were planning on going to Skrillex at Surrender but I just couldn't make it.

Oh, I also met up with that one chick from daygame earlier in the day. I started feeling my sickness come on like 30 minutes before I met up with her. Anyways, we talked at one of the bars for like 30 mins to an hour. It wasn't until after that, when we was about to leave and we were talking sort of by the elevators that I saw her get anime eyes. It happened basically when I was talking more and being more of a boss, and specifically, like validating her beliefs. She doesn't drink or do drugs and I told her I didn't either and all of a sudden she's like ready to suck my ****.

So there's two important things to note here: 1. When I first met her a couple days before we madeout and she had the anime eyes, etc. But when we met up again a couple days later it wasn't exactly the same. It was like the attraction had died off a little bit. So you almost need to start from scratch. It's crazy, but all relationships and friendships have a sort of momentum to them. The stronger the relationship is, the more time it takes to kill the momentum. But if you only meet a girl for like an hour and then don't see her for 2 days, you obviously haven't built that much momentum and you'll basically be starting from scratch. On the other hand, I've been friends with some of my boys for well over 15 years. As you can imagine, our friendship has built a ****load of momentum, and we could go months, probably even years without talking and not loose THAT much momentum in our friendship.
MAIN POINT: Don't be surprised if you have to work your way back up from scratch on a day 2

2. Whenever you can validate peoples' ways of thinking of their beliefs by showing that you feel the same way, or something, they will perceive you as more valuable. It's fairly obvious yet it surprises me everytime. People want to hear what they want to hear. And if you tell them what they want to hear then they'll like you more. Obviously there are stipulations to this but you get the idea


ANYWAY, going back to when I was sick and supposed to be going to Skrillex. The chick texted me at like 2am basically saying she wanted to bang. But I was so sick I didn't even reply. Noooooooooooooo. And I've been sleeping for, I don't even know how long, haha. Like I feel very weird right now. It feels like no time has passed at all, but also that it has. I think I've been sleeping in my house for a day or more. Like I'm pissed that I've lost 2 days of game now because of this ****ing sickness, but it's also not that bad because it's almost like no time has passed at all, haha. Anyways, I don't think I can go out tonight, because I can't handle being out for 7 hours. I'd rather take the time to get 100% better. It's a ****ty shorterm plan and I'm vehemently fighting against it, but I know it's for the best long term, so I'm going to do it. However, depending on how I'm feeling in like 4 hours I might try to bang that chick. She leaves on Saturday so the clock is ticking haha. Wish me luck

Talk to you soon,
Alex​

 

[AlexLefty1]

Almost Lay Report Below

So like 3 or 4 days later I'm finally over my sickness. It was pretty bad, and I slept the majority of the time. I think it was the flu...

Last night I picked up the Australian chick that I met via daygame on the strip a few days ago at like 3am. We headed back to my place and I thought it was going down. Unfortunately, it didn't. She was putting up some pretty sever obstacles. I think a more experienced pimp could have pulled it off, but I just didn't have the skill set to work through it.

Here's how it went: Right when she got in my car I grabbed her head and did a little makeout sesh. Instant man to woman and setting the tone -- she responded well, check. Did it again as we were driving back to my place. Despite only being 80% recovered from my sickness I was upbeat, cracking jokes, and bringing a lot of value. Once we got into my place I simply took too long to escalate. I immediately laid down on my bed just in one of those "damn I'm tired" flops. She stayed standing above me for a couple minutes, seeming to resist the idea of laying down with me. So I stood up and got some water from the fridge, as I did this she finally sat on the bed. Coincidence? No. I think she just didn't feel comfortable enough. I suppose I could've tried to make her feel less slutty and more normal but I'm not exactly sure how. Keep in mind awesome conversation is going on throughout.

Then I sit on the bed but she doesn't get too close. At this point I think I ****ed up because it took me about another hour before I tried making out with her again. I guess I could just feel that she wasn't all the way into it. I think the reasons she wasn't into it were: 1. Being very tired. 2. Not having enough sexual comfort, or perhaps sexual attraction? 3. I wasn't sexual enough in our previous interactions, and set the frame as too talkative and friendly rather than sexual. 4. She masturbated the night before and said she wasn't horny?

Eventually we did start making out again. I was sucking on her nipple, and trying to kiss/bite her neck to turn her on more but she seemed to resist it. Also worth noting is that we were pretty much stationary -- like she was resisting me throwing her down and climbing on top or vice versa. Very weird, never have had that happen before. I was grabbing her ass and rubbing her pvssy from outside her pants, even with her seeming to try and stop me every once in a while. Then I kind of made her be on top of me, and it just faded out. She obviously just wasn't into getting ****ed right then. By then it was like 6am and I drove her to her hotel at The Paris because she had a flight to LA at 11am. And that's that.

The ****ty thing is that if I saw her the night before I would've had a much better chance at banging. She was texting me really late trying to get me to pick her up, etc.. But, as I noted in a previous post, I was too sick to even consider it. She ended up fingering herself that night. Hahaha man fvcking unlucky sickness bastard horse ****. Oh well


As far as the sickness goes, I'm pissed off that I missed 4 days of game. Honestly, though, I feel like I haven't lost that much macro-momentum because I can't really even remember the last 4 days. They're really all a blur when I try to think about them. Also my sleep schedule is completely ****ed now so that'll be fun haha. I have some obligatory things to do on Sunday, and then watch game 7 of the NBA finals, and then I'll go out to either Drais, XS, or Omnia -- whichever is free due to EDC weekend.

Also I made a list of all the clubs in Vegas and whether they're day clubs or night clubs and when they're open so that I could keep them all straight in my head. If you're interested in seeing it just let me know.

Talk to you soon,
Alex

 

[Mr Wright]

Here's how it went: Right when she got in my car I grabbed her head and did a little makeout sesh. Instant man to woman and setting the tone -- she responded well, check. Did it again as we were driving back to my place. Despite only being 80% recovered from my sickness I was upbeat, cracking jokes, and bringing a lot of value. Once we got into my place I simply took too long to escalate. I immediately laid down on my bed just in one of those "damn I'm tired" flops. She stayed standing above me for a couple minutes, seeming to resist the idea of laying down with me. So I stood up and got some water from the fridge, as I did this she finally sat on the bed. Coincidence? No. I think she just didn't feel comfortable enough. I suppose I could've tried to make her feel less slutty and more normal but I'm not exactly sure how. Keep in mind awesome conversation is going on throughout.

Then I sit on the bed but she doesn't get too close. At this point I think I ****ed up because it took me about another hour before I tried making out with her again. I guess I could just feel that she wasn't all the way into it. I think the reasons she wasn't into it were: 1. Being very tired. 2. Not having enough sexual comfort, or perhaps sexual attraction? 3. I wasn't sexual enough in our previous interactions, and set the frame as too talkative and friendly rather than sexual. 4. She masturbated the night before and said she wasn't horny?

Eventually we did start making out again. I was sucking on her nipple, and trying to kiss/bite her neck to turn her on more but she seemed to resist it. Also worth noting is that we were pretty much stationary -- like she was resisting me throwing her down and climbing on top or vice versa. Very weird, never have had that happen before. I was grabbing her ass and rubbing her pvssy from outside her pants, even with her seeming to try and stop me every once in a while. Then I kind of made her be on top of me, and it just faded out. She obviously just wasn't into getting ****ed right then. By then it was like 6am and I drove her to her hotel at The Paris because she had a flight to LA at 11am. And that's that.

This situation is common when you're escalating. Just think about it this way, she is in your apartment, making out with you, she's there to get fücked. She seems to be the kind of girl who wants to be seduced, every time she stops you, you start again.

I'll refer to something I posted on another thread:

I translate these kind of things as "are you man enough to take what you want?"...and yes I am.

Once it's at this stage. I know she wants me. She knows I want her. She would rather fück me than make it work on time. She would rather have sex with me, a guy whose name she doesn't even know because I make her wet, rather than a guy she's known for years who does nothing for her. Both of these things happened to me last weekend. Objections are the question, are you man enough? And boy do they reward you when they feel that masculine energy and there's that male-female polarity that nature intended. That occurs when a woman has been properly seduced.

 

[AlexLefty1]

@Mr Wright Awesome feedback, thank you sir!

@LiveYourDream ****ing hell...what a post! Haha and yes I did read it all. Though, I'll need to reread it a couple times to fully get it. Thank you, that was so helpful. I hope it was also helpful and therapeutic for you to write that stream of consciousness. Again, thank you! I am curious, how do you know all this? I might assume that it's fairly obvious to you because you are indeed a woman. But then again, understanding one's own desires is sometimes the trickiest thing of all. I feel like I hardly understand people and myself sometimes, despite having a lot of pickup and related knowledge. So does this all come naturally to you, or do you have to really think about it, or maybe something else entirely? Because many of the points you make are very nuanced.

--

Now I'd like to share something with you, one of my intellectual formula's for success. This came to me many years ago and applies to basically anything you're trying to accomplish. The explanation I give here is not very nuanced but I believe it's good food for thought for when you are trying to accomplish a task. I'll keep this brief. In order to be successful you must be/have 3 things: work ethic, organization, consistency.

Work Ethic
Being a hard worker is probably the most obvious requisite of success. Although many have become successful without working hard, many more have achieved success through hard work. Work ethic involves many things, which I will not go into here, but maybe the most important of them is strong focus -- such that you are able to concentrate on a task for an extended period of time. On a planar graph, high focus on the Y-axis coupled with a lot of time on the X-axis leads to a strong work ethic.

Organization
A strong work ethic, however, is nothing without organization. Organization is the key to bridging the gap between working hard and working smart. Ideally you want to work hard, but no harder than you have to. This is called working smart, and it allows you to be extremely efficient. Organization is probably my favorite piece of this equation because it goes hand in hand with planning. Creating schedules, graphs, checks and balance, and motivations and punishments are all parts of being organized.

Consistency
The most important part in attaining success (assuming minimal initial luck and a big goal) is consistency -- without it, the first two variables do not matter. It's a rather simple concept really, and says that you can work hard, even smart via massive organization, but that if can't do it for a long time then you will fail. The question of how to be consistent is the real trick. I have some ideas, but I'm honestly not too sure. I'll get into the deeper parts of this later, if you're interested.

And there you go! I'm not sure why I shared this, but I hope it is of some value to you. I suppose I was just thinking that with pickup right now I'm lacking most in my work ethic and consistency. In terms of work ethic I just need to be going harder and more intense when I'm out. I'm confident that I'll get out enough now, at least 7 hours per day, but I just need to make more of my time. And consistency has been a real frustration, mostly because I haven't been following my schedule as well as I would like. I suppose it's mostly because I created my schedule about a week ago, and then caught a 4 day bed-ridden sickness. So I haven't actually had a chance to follow it haha. There's no logical reason to be upset at myself, but still, I want to follow it perfectly.

Anyways, I'm out.

Talk to you soon,
Alex

 

[AlexLefty1]

A positive night.
I went to Omnia by myself and did about 8 opens overall, 2 of which resulted in makeouts. Before you tell me this is sh1tty, trust me I know. But I'm focusing on the positives here! There's no way I could've done this a month ago. And while progress has been slow, it's definitely upward sloping. My biggest problem is obviously developing my trigger muscle and just approaching right when I see them. Other than that, I was disappointed with my inability to keep sets going for very long. My conversation and banter skills are obviously very weak, weaker than they have been in the past at least. Though, they're probably on par with the vast majority of people. The solution? I realize it's a slow and steady process. More approaches begets more experience and thus allows the brain to be calm during said approaches, and also hones conversational skills via pure repetition. Brandon is having a hard time accepting this, but I know it to be true because of my past experiences.

Two years ago I did a 1 month immersion period in San Diego. I started from the bottom, and by the end of the month I hooked up with 5 different girls 5 nights in a row, all from cold approach pickup in the mall. After that I was a vastly more confident and happy man, and my conversational skills were at their peak.

So it's been a month now, why haven't I reached that level yet? 2 reasons:
1. I'm coming from a much darker place than before. Basically my face was driven into the ground by school and work that past 2 years and I became very unhappy. I was successful in my focuses, and was the best employee in the history of my job, but I still wasn't happy. I'd say it took about two to three weeks out here in Vegas to just become "normal" again. It's funny because I never really realized how low I had sunk until I climbed out.
2. I haven't been hitting it has hard as in San Diego. The reasons are because instead of just staying at my mom's house (like in San Diego), I've had to start the building blocks of the rest of my life out here. Basically more life responsibilities and setup costs have slowed my progress. But now I'm to the point where I can go just about as hard, aka 7 - 12 hours per day of pickup.

However, I am confident that through perseverance and repetition my conversational skills will be sharp as a nail very soon.

It has been a liberating experience and I can feel the macro momentum really kicking in. I'm not good, but I'm getting there! And I'm excited!

If your wondering, here is my planned out daily schedule:
2 hours: personal stuff
3 hours: day game
3 hours: lunch and essentials
7.5 hours: game

wash, rinse, repeat!

Talk to you soon,
Alex

 

[skinnyguy]

A positive night.
I went to Omnia by myself and did about 8 opens overall, 2 of which resulted in makeouts. Before you tell me this is sh1tty, trust me I know. But I'm focusing on the positives here! There's no way I could've done this a month ago. And while progress has been slow, it's definitely upward sloping. My biggest problem is obviously developing my trigger muscle and just approaching right when I see them. Other than that, I was disappointed with my inability to keep sets going for very long. My conversation and banter skills are obviously very weak, weaker than they have been in the past at least. Though, they're probably on par with the vast majority of people. The solution? I realize it's a slow and steady process. More approaches begets more experience and thus allows the brain to be calm during said approaches, and also hones conversational skills via pure repetition. Brandon is having a hard time accepting this, but I know it to be true because of my past experiences.

Two years ago I did a 1 month immersion period in San Diego. I started from the bottom, and by the end of the month I hooked up with 5 different girls 5 nights in a row, all from cold approach pickup in the mall. After that I was a vastly more confident and happy man, and my conversational skills were at their peak.

So it's been a month now, why haven't I reached that level yet? 2 reasons:
1. I'm coming from a much darker place than before. Basically my face was driven into the ground by school and work that past 2 years and I became very unhappy. I was successful in my focuses, and was the best employee in the history of my job, but I still wasn't happy. I'd say it took about two to three weeks out here in Vegas to just become "normal" again. It's funny because I never really realized how low I had sunk until I climbed out.
2. I haven't been hitting it has hard as in San Diego. The reasons are because instead of just staying at my mom's house (like in San Diego), I've had to start the building blocks of the rest of my life out here. Basically more life responsibilities and setup costs have slowed my progress. But now I'm to the point where I can go just about as hard, aka 7 - 12 hours per day of pickup.

However, I am confident that through perseverance and repetition my conversational skills will be sharp as a nail very soon.

It has been a liberating experience and I can feel the macro momentum really kicking in. I'm not good, but I'm getting there! And I'm excited!

If your wondering, here is my planned out daily schedule:
2 hours: personal stuff
3 hours: day game
3 hours: lunch and essentials
7.5 hours: game

wash, rinse, repeat!

Talk to you soon,
Alex

That's a lot of time running game. You could use that time to work and make money which will make it easier to go out more. This summer I'm working 12 hours per day, working out, and still have lots of time for game.

Since you are there for so long, you can apply to be a promoter at Hakkasan. You won't need to do day game anymore, cause you will have so much pvssy falling into your lap.

 

[AlexLefty1]

That's a lot of time running game. You could use that time to work and make money which will make it easier to go out more.
In general I agree! But I've specifically planned this trip so I don't have to work. Aka working a lot the past 3 months and saving enough money to live on while out here. I also have a small, semi-passive form of income coming in. When I move back here after next semester though I'll have to find some work.

This summer I'm working 12 hours per day, working out, and still have lots of time for game.
Hell yeah man! But if you're doing that you can by definition only have 2 - 6 hours per day max for game. I probably suck more than you so I need more time haha.

Since you are there for so long, you can apply to be a promoter at Hakkasan. You won't need to do day game anymore, cause you will have so much pvssy falling into your lap.
Yeah I might do that next time!

 

[AlexLefty1]

Quick Update:

6/22/16
*Didn't go out during the day.

*Went out at night to Surrender/EBC. That sh!t is ****ing awesome. Besides XS, it might be my favorite club because there's a large area to actually talk. There's also a loud dance club area, but I don't care much for that. Didn't have a large breadth of approaches, but my approaches did have significant depth. I'm getting my **** funny and improvisational humor back, finally! I think my brain is finally calming down while in set due to pure repetition and exposure.

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6/23/16
*Went out during the day by myself. Went ok, but I found it much harder to approach by myself. Only did 3 approaches

*Tried to go out during the night but we got there too late. If we get there by 11 at the latest we don't have to pay because we're locals and there ins't a huge line. So had to go back home and reset for the next day.

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6/24/16
*Went out during the day by myself. Went a lot better. Did 100% more approaches in about 3/4ths the time. Getting more comfortable being myself. It's just harder to be self amused and break societies rules of social conditioning when you're alone, but I'm pushing through it.

*Went out early during the night and each went for 30 approaches in 30 minutes as a warm up. I got into set faster than I ever have before and felt like these were some of my best sets yet! Though Brandon makes a good point that my best sets have been when I brought that Australian chick back to the house and my makeouts. I partially agree, but I was definitely the most comfortable I've ever been tonight.

*Good thing is I approached a couple very hot sets. One was a 4 set with ~8s and ~9s, and I held my own pretty well. Only thing is that we were at a crosswalk, and when the light came on I panicked and didn't cross with them. However, the set was a big move for me because I have a tendency to get intimidated by hot sets easily...I can feel that tendency fading though.
*Otherwise, I need to push the sets longer and go for the pull, and approach even more instantaneously. I also need to work on my hook point, and create more push pull to get them genuinely chasing my validation. Because now that I'm getting more comfortable in set I can really focus on increasing my ability to create attraction.

Overall, I'm still only like 1% of where I need to be in the grand scheme of things, but there's definitely progress! I'm so much better now than a week ago! And the progress is increasing at a rapid rate.

Tomorrow
I will do some day game on the strip for a couple hours.
Then we'll go out at night and go for 50 approaches in 60 minutes, each. We've finally conceded that we can't get into *most* clubs for free on the weekends. So Friday and Saturday will be "practice mass approaching on the strip" day. Obviously we'll still try and pull, but I'm really looking forward to getting such a high number of approaches in such a short period of time. Every time we do this I feel my skill level shoot up like crazy. I'll let you know how it goes

Talk to you soon,
Alex

 

[Dhoulmagus]

How about you post youtube videos of you gaming on the strip BRO

 

[skinnyguy]

I know when you first got to Vegas and were having approach anxiety I suggested you set a goal, for one day, to go for 30 approaches in 3 hours, in order to force yourself to get out of your head and through quick repetition get over your fear of simply approaching women. I saw value in you doing that once, maybe twice. I also felt it was important in the interaction for to actually practice developing a bit of rapport with the woman you approached. I am regretting my suggestion to you now as I think you've taken the concept and warped it into something never intended and something I think is actually detrimental to you in the long run.

I think you may be mistaking uncomfortable action with productive action. Your new goals, imho, do not leave the time and space for you to actually connect with the woman you are approaching. To me you are setting a goal that, by the extreme limited time, forces you (and ingrains in you) to act like a robot and treat the woman so much like a target that you really have no time to interact or build rapport with her. You have 1 minute to approach, interact and find a new target. Really?? 30 in 30, or 50 in 60, is a set-up to go through motions like a robot. You are no longer a man approaching and connecting with a woman. In case you haven't noticed, women don't respond positively to robot approaches. Women respond well, to men reaching out to connect to them. Teach yourself to be a man comfortable approaching and interacting with women.

I understand 30 in 30 may give you the adrenaline rush and feeling of accomplishment because you are forcing yourself to be uncomfortable. I think in the long run the practice is actually a BIG disservice to yourself, as you are ingraining habit that will only hinder you in my opinion.

I suspect your new goals are actually a diversion from your facing your deeper fears of, how to actually progress an approach interaction along comfortably and successfully. I really think you would be best served to scrap your 30 in 30 and 50 and 60 type goals and instead force yourself to practice getting over the bigger wall, your bigger fears, one real approach at a time.

People value connection. Women respond to men who genuinely connect with them. Don't practice being a robot. You'll only have to unlearn it later. Teach yourself to be centered and present. Those two things give man a sense of presence that other people take note of and do not forget. Practice that (not robot approaches.) Practice being centered, present and then genuinely connecting, in that moment, with whomever you are interacting with. That is a skill that will transform you and your life. Women eat it up because it's rare and massively attractive.

It seems, to me, your focus in Vegas is so numbers, hours and transaction oriented, as measures of your success there, that you are lost focusing in busyness, as ways to indicate time well spent. You seem to have the attitude that approaching women there is like a job there rather than an extension of you having fun there. I'd suggest you reconsider your mindset and also clarify what you most want to transform and experience in the next two months, so you can insure your actions are truly in aligned to deliver that to you.

TL;DR in bold above

Interestingly, I have to disagree with you.

Vegas is absolutely a numbers game. You will get laid there if you look at women as a transaction. The women there aren't looking for a "connection" they are just looking for an alpha for fvck them hard.

Vegas isn't like other towns. You need to just go in and push through sets one after another without caring what the girl thinks. Because everyone there is on vacation, conversations are different than if you're at home.

I think AlexLefty is having fun. I'm quite jealous of him because I would love to spend a few months in vegas not giving a fvck about anything but I can't do that at this point (maybe next summer).

 

[AlexLefty1]

I know when you first got to Vegas and were having approach anxiety I suggested you set a goal, for one day, to go for 30 approaches in 3 hours, in order to force yourself to get out of your head and through quick repetition get over your fear of simply approaching women. I saw value in you doing that once, maybe twice. I also felt it was important in the interaction for to actually practice developing a bit of rapport with the woman you approached. I am regretting my suggestion to you now as I think you've taken the concept and warped it into something never intended and something I think is actually detrimental to you in the long run.

I think you may be mistaking uncomfortable action with productive action. Your new goals, imho, do not leave the time and space for you to actually connect with the woman you are approaching. To me you are setting a goal that, by the extreme limited time, forces you (and ingrains in you) to act like a robot and treat the woman so much like a target that you really have no time to interact or build rapport with her. You have 1 minute to approach, interact and find a new target. Really?? 30 in 30, or 50 in 60, is a set-up to go through motions like a robot. You are no longer a man approaching and connecting with a woman. In case you haven't noticed, women don't respond positively to robot approaches. Women respond well, to men reaching out to connect to them. Teach yourself to be a man comfortable approaching and interacting with women.

I understand 30 in 30 may give you the adrenaline rush and feeling of accomplishment because you are forcing yourself to be uncomfortable. I think in the long run the practice is actually a BIG disservice to yourself, as you are ingraining habit that will only hinder you in my opinion.

I suspect your new goals are actually a diversion from your facing your deeper fears of, how to actually progress an approach interaction along comfortably and successfully. I really think you would be best served to scrap your 30 in 30 and 50 and 60 type goals and instead force yourself to practice getting over the bigger wall, your bigger fears, one real approach at a time.

People value connection. Women respond to men who genuinely connect with them. Don't practice being a robot. You'll only have to unlearn it later. Teach yourself to be centered and present. Those two things give man a sense of presence that other people take note of and do not forget. Practice that (not robot approaches.) Practice being centered, present and then genuinely connecting, in that moment, with whomever you are interacting with. That is a skill that will transform you and your life. Women eat it up because it's rare and massively attractive.

It seems, to me, your focus in Vegas is so numbers, hours and transaction oriented, as measures of your success there, that you are lost focusing in busyness, as ways to indicate time well spent. You seem to have the attitude that approaching women there is like a job there rather than an extension of you having fun there. I'd suggest you reconsider your mindset and also clarify what you most want to transform and experience in the next two months, so you can insure your actions are truly in aligned to deliver that to you.

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I agree with you, partially haha. There are some major misunderstandings here, and it's really my fault for not clarifying earlier.

So here's how it works. When I say "30 in 30", I mean I have 30 minutes NET to do 30 approaches. However, the GROSS time spent in the field is usually between an hour and an hour and a half, sometimes even more. Picture this: you start the timer at 30 minutes at 9:00:00PM, then 45 seconds go by before you actually approach your first set. So when you approach the timer is at 29 minutes and 15 seconds, and it is 9:00:45PM. At this point, when you approach, the other person stops the timer. In other words, your time "in set" does not detract from your "timer" time. So you really ARE getting the connection you speak of. Finally, at 9:12:45PM you come out of your first set with a number. And at this point the other person starts your timer again at 29 minutes and 15 seconds. So even though 12 minutes have gone by in actual time (GROSS), only 45 seconds (NET) have gone by on the timer. See what I'm saying? This is what we've been doing since you very first suggested this

This allows for a large breadth, AND depth of interactions. Because the true issue in approaching is skipping out on sets/having a large gap time between sets. The benefits of doing such a high number of sets in such a short NET period of time (long GROSS period of time) are as incredible as they are numerous.

So yeah, I totally agree that if I wasn't pausing the timer then it would be pointless (at my level at least) because you'd basically be running up and saying hi and then running away haha.

However, I must disagree in another aspect because this IS like a business. And its success can be calculated in terms of hours and numbers and transactions, mostly because these are key drivers of success and improvement. This is not to say that I'm a cold robot approaching girls without finding a connection. Rather, I'm trying very hard to build the connection and genuinely interact as a human being. It's just that, on a macro level, it is very figures and numbers oriented. It's so hard to explain because it really is just a huge paradox haha. I have to be present, yet I also have to be strategic and business oriented. Because even though this is the most fun I've ever had, it is most certainly work. It's the hardest and most fun work I've ever had to do, emotionally speaking. I'm not just here to have fun. I'm here to work. But the great thing is that I have fun anyways because it's such awesome work!

Interestingly, I have to disagree with you.

Vegas is absolutely a numbers game. You will get laid there if you look at women as a transaction. The women there aren't looking for a "connection" they are just looking for an alpha for fvck them hard.

Vegas isn't like other towns. You need to just go in and push through sets one after another without caring what the girl thinks. Because everyone there is on vacation, conversations are different than if you're at home.

I think AlexLefty is having fun. I'm quite jealous of him because I would love to spend a few months in vegas not giving a fvck about anything but I can't do that at this point (maybe next summer).

Agreed. Most people you find aren't from here. Though you obviously still need some of that emotional and genuine connection.But I think your description is more accurate for this environment.

And yeah dude I'm having a lot of fun! You totally should dude! You have 1 year! Start saving now! I saved about $5,000 in the 3 months before I came here. That, combined with about $50 per week in passive income that I'm earning has allowed me to do this. I'm sure that if you started saving now you could easily meet these threasholds. Especially if you come down here with someone else because then your costs are cut in half.

Also I made a post about how much I spent in my first month. I think you saw it but if not look it up. I'll also make a post about my total expenses at the end of the trip so you'll know how much you need

Also, also, it's worth noting that I've been waiting to do this for over a year! It took that much time to find the perfect opportunity time to do it, and most importantly to find someone to do it with me. After I found that person to do it with me, it took over 6 months to actually convince them that it was worth it. So yeah, I've been masterminding this trip for over a year, but my point is that if I could set it up then you can too!

 

[skinnyguy]

The downside is that when you go home the girls will be a lot uglier and you won't be going out 7 nights a week lol

When I got back from vegas two weeks ago I didn't want to go out cause it was going to be such a letdown!

When I'm there just on vacation I have a totally different mentality and approach to women. I think when I'm in home I'm in "work" mode and don't open up that much. In vegas I have to filter I just let it all out and do the craziest shyt. The one thing is that if I lived there for a month I'd probably end up in rehab.

Props to you for planning it out and making it happen. For me, my big task is to get out of California and move to Texas and I'm giving myself 12 months to do it.

 

[AlexLefty1]

The downside is that when you go home the girls will be a lot uglier and you won't be going out 7 nights a week lol

Not sure I know what you mean? Vegas actually has the highest pool of 9s and 10s I've ever seen

When I got back from vegas two weeks ago I didn't want to go out cause it was going to be such a letdown!

When I'm there just on vacation I have a totally different mentality and approach to women. I think when I'm in home I'm in "work" mode and don't open up that much. In vegas I have to filter I just let it all out and do the craziest shyt. The one thing is that if I lived there for a month I'd probably end up in rehab.

Props to you for planning it out and making it happen. For me, my big task is to get out of California and move to Texas and I'm giving myself 12 months to do it.

What's in Texas?