"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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...after the first kiss

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last night i went to the movies with a girl that ive liked for years, i know for a fact that at times she liked me too. we've been hanging out alot lately and been having a pretty good time. we would go bowling or see a movie or something, and then just sit around and talk, and eventually she would have to go, and there would be a nice pause (perfect time for a goodbye kiss) but i was to much off a ***** to do anything. so i would say "i had fun, see you soon... blah blah" and she would go.

yesterday i decided that i was going to go for it. and to make a long story short, i did. this was my first kiss and it was horribly done (lol) but i also think it was hers. i was so nervous that i just went out and asked "can i kiss you?" and she said ok. after some crappy kissing i pretty much just said my goodbyes and left.

anyway, what im asking here is how should i talk to her next and what should i say? we text alot and sometimes talk on the phone. i want to make it as un-awkward as possible, and hopefully it will not be the last time :D
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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to make it un akward as possible. keep doing what you were doing.
 

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to make it un akward as possible. keep doing what you were doing.
 

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Arizona iced tea said:
last night i went to the movies with a girl that ive liked for years, i know for a fact that at times she liked me too. we've been hanging out alot lately and been having a pretty good time. we would go bowling or see a movie or something, and then just sit around and talk, and eventually she would have to go, and there would be a nice pause (perfect time for a goodbye kiss) but i was to much off a ***** to do anything. so i would say "i had fun, see you soon... blah blah" and she would go.

yesterday i decided that i was going to go for it. and to make a long story short, i did. this was my first kiss and it was horribly done (lol) but i also think it was hers. i was so nervous that i just went out and asked "can i kiss you?" and she said ok. after some crappy kissing i pretty much just said my goodbyes and left.

anyway, what im asking here is how should i talk to her next and what should i say? we text alot and sometimes talk on the phone. i want to make it as un-awkward as possible, and hopefully it will not be the last time :D
Don't ever ask for the womans permission.

"Can I kiss you?" = Horrible. You asking is giving her the power and making you seem like you don't have the balls to take the lead and do things yourself.

Next time, just tell her "Close your eyes" and go for it.

If you don't want to make it awkward, the best advice is to forget about it. You don't want that uncomfortable feeling, well, stop dwelling on it so much and pretend it was normal, because it is.
 

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Lust said:
Don't ever ask for the womans permission.

"Can I kiss you?" = Horrible. You asking is giving her the power and making you seem like you don't have the balls to take the lead and do things yourself.
haha, i know i know i know. but i was probably more nervous than i have ever been in my life, and it was a move of desperation. and amazingly it worked :D . as i see it it was way better than just leaving without saying anything, which was probably the next option in my head.

honestly, i think just playing it off isnt going to work... we are both shy and it will just be weird unless it is brought out into the open, and i dont think talking about it would necessarily be a bad thing. or am i all wrong??? lol
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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haha, i know i know i know. but i was probably more nervous than i have ever been in my life, and it was a move of desperation. and amazingly it worked :D . as i see it it was way better than just leaving without saying anything, which was probably the next option in my head.

honestly, i think just playing it off isnt going to work... we are both shy and it will just be weird unless it is brought out into the open, and i dont think talking about it would necessarily be a bad thing. or am i all wrong??? lol
Well you could not mention it, and just do whatever you normally do on the phone, then next date, you kiss her, except without asking, telling her, commanding her to close her eyes. Leading the interaction.

Or, you could inject some humor into it and joke around about how bad the kiss was. Eg.

"Haha yeah, that was a bad kiss. I think I have to go home and practice, hey, hurry up and tell me how to get lipstick off my mirrors, it's pissing me off!"

It doesn't have to be incredibly funny to work. It could be something as simple as "Oh god that was such a crappy kiss, haha, I'll make it up to you later" then don't wait for a response and just talk about whatever you guys normally talk about.

Either way, I think the position your in, you can do anything, even if you screw it up a bit, it's not make or break, just make sure the next kiss is good.
 

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Well you could not mention it, and just do whatever you normally do on the phone, then next date, you kiss her, except without asking, telling her, commanding her to close her eyes. Leading the interaction.

Or, you could inject some humor into it and joke around about how bad the kiss was. Eg.

"Haha yeah, that was a bad kiss. I think I have to go home and practice, hey, hurry up and tell me how to get lipstick off my mirrors, it's pissing me off!"

It doesn't have to be incredibly funny to work. It could be something as simple as "Oh god that was such a crappy kiss, haha, I'll make it up to you later" then don't wait for a response and just talk about whatever you guys normally talk about.

Either way, I think the position your in, you can do anything, even if you screw it up a bit, it's not make or break, just make sure the next kiss is good.
i was thinking i would joke around about it... and i will :p . also, this has its good and bad parts to it, but she is actually moving 2000 miles away in about 3 weeks... so if i messed up it wouldnt be the end of the world, but im going to hate to see her go...
 
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