Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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...after the first kiss

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last night i went to the movies with a girl that ive liked for years, i know for a fact that at times she liked me too. we've been hanging out alot lately and been having a pretty good time. we would go bowling or see a movie or something, and then just sit around and talk, and eventually she would have to go, and there would be a nice pause (perfect time for a goodbye kiss) but i was to much off a ***** to do anything. so i would say "i had fun, see you soon... blah blah" and she would go.

yesterday i decided that i was going to go for it. and to make a long story short, i did. this was my first kiss and it was horribly done (lol) but i also think it was hers. i was so nervous that i just went out and asked "can i kiss you?" and she said ok. after some crappy kissing i pretty much just said my goodbyes and left.

anyway, what im asking here is how should i talk to her next and what should i say? we text alot and sometimes talk on the phone. i want to make it as un-awkward as possible, and hopefully it will not be the last time :D
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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to make it un akward as possible. keep doing what you were doing.
 

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to make it un akward as possible. keep doing what you were doing.
 

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Arizona iced tea said:
last night i went to the movies with a girl that ive liked for years, i know for a fact that at times she liked me too. we've been hanging out alot lately and been having a pretty good time. we would go bowling or see a movie or something, and then just sit around and talk, and eventually she would have to go, and there would be a nice pause (perfect time for a goodbye kiss) but i was to much off a ***** to do anything. so i would say "i had fun, see you soon... blah blah" and she would go.

yesterday i decided that i was going to go for it. and to make a long story short, i did. this was my first kiss and it was horribly done (lol) but i also think it was hers. i was so nervous that i just went out and asked "can i kiss you?" and she said ok. after some crappy kissing i pretty much just said my goodbyes and left.

anyway, what im asking here is how should i talk to her next and what should i say? we text alot and sometimes talk on the phone. i want to make it as un-awkward as possible, and hopefully it will not be the last time :D
Don't ever ask for the womans permission.

"Can I kiss you?" = Horrible. You asking is giving her the power and making you seem like you don't have the balls to take the lead and do things yourself.

Next time, just tell her "Close your eyes" and go for it.

If you don't want to make it awkward, the best advice is to forget about it. You don't want that uncomfortable feeling, well, stop dwelling on it so much and pretend it was normal, because it is.
 

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Lust said:
Don't ever ask for the womans permission.

"Can I kiss you?" = Horrible. You asking is giving her the power and making you seem like you don't have the balls to take the lead and do things yourself.
haha, i know i know i know. but i was probably more nervous than i have ever been in my life, and it was a move of desperation. and amazingly it worked :D . as i see it it was way better than just leaving without saying anything, which was probably the next option in my head.

honestly, i think just playing it off isnt going to work... we are both shy and it will just be weird unless it is brought out into the open, and i dont think talking about it would necessarily be a bad thing. or am i all wrong??? lol
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Arizona iced tea said:
haha, i know i know i know. but i was probably more nervous than i have ever been in my life, and it was a move of desperation. and amazingly it worked :D . as i see it it was way better than just leaving without saying anything, which was probably the next option in my head.

honestly, i think just playing it off isnt going to work... we are both shy and it will just be weird unless it is brought out into the open, and i dont think talking about it would necessarily be a bad thing. or am i all wrong??? lol
Well you could not mention it, and just do whatever you normally do on the phone, then next date, you kiss her, except without asking, telling her, commanding her to close her eyes. Leading the interaction.

Or, you could inject some humor into it and joke around about how bad the kiss was. Eg.

"Haha yeah, that was a bad kiss. I think I have to go home and practice, hey, hurry up and tell me how to get lipstick off my mirrors, it's pissing me off!"

It doesn't have to be incredibly funny to work. It could be something as simple as "Oh god that was such a crappy kiss, haha, I'll make it up to you later" then don't wait for a response and just talk about whatever you guys normally talk about.

Either way, I think the position your in, you can do anything, even if you screw it up a bit, it's not make or break, just make sure the next kiss is good.
 

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Well you could not mention it, and just do whatever you normally do on the phone, then next date, you kiss her, except without asking, telling her, commanding her to close her eyes. Leading the interaction.

Or, you could inject some humor into it and joke around about how bad the kiss was. Eg.

"Haha yeah, that was a bad kiss. I think I have to go home and practice, hey, hurry up and tell me how to get lipstick off my mirrors, it's pissing me off!"

It doesn't have to be incredibly funny to work. It could be something as simple as "Oh god that was such a crappy kiss, haha, I'll make it up to you later" then don't wait for a response and just talk about whatever you guys normally talk about.

Either way, I think the position your in, you can do anything, even if you screw it up a bit, it's not make or break, just make sure the next kiss is good.
i was thinking i would joke around about it... and i will :p . also, this has its good and bad parts to it, but she is actually moving 2000 miles away in about 3 weeks... so if i messed up it wouldnt be the end of the world, but im going to hate to see her go...
 
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