"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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AFC chick... a guy's perspective this time.

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I was supposed to go out with her tommorow, but i'm really thinkin' about ditching her. Now before you smack me over the head, hear me out.

She messages me everyday, whining about how bored she is.... and tries to setup more dates before our original date. She was online today, and wanted me to wake up early to have breakfast with her tommorow, after i politely refused she kept on whining to me about how she has nothing to do on a fri. Your typical AFC. I'm starting to understand why girls flake on guys who do that. I mean at first i wanted to get some... b/c she is pretty good looking, but the way shes acting is a reallllllly big turnoff.

Am i turning into a chick or what? lol

Tables have turned :crazy:
but, its not that great being on the winning team either.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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It sucks when they get all clingy, I know. Now you know that if you got in a relationship with her just how need and clingy she would be!
 

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i don't mind clinginess all that much. it's better than the alternative extreme. Generally you can just blow her off when you don't want to see her and she'll still be dying to be with you when you're bored. And if she gets all obsessed with you, she'll rave about you to all the other girls she knows so you'll get social proof for if you decide to dump her later.

i probably wouldn't dump her if she's good-looking.
 

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Yea, it comes down to if she's hot or not. If she's hot, you can tolerate a little more of the clinginess. If she's average or below, no.
 

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Obsidian said:
i don't mind clinginess all that much. it's better than the alternative extreme. Generally you can just blow her off when you don't want to see her and she'll still be dying to be with you when you're bored. And if she gets all obsessed with you, she'll rave about you to all the other girls she knows so you'll get social proof for if you decide to dump her later.

i probably wouldn't dump her if she's good-looking.

yea, i just keep her around for when im bored, like a chick would lead on an AFC.

I think the most important think to learn from this is:
girls aren't that hard to understand, if you can't understand em you're just too needy and pathetic. :flowers:

Grow some balls, respect yourself and start doing your own thing.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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