"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I would not mind a little advise here. I was approached by a thin, beautiful, large breasted personal trainer at school last week. I know, but its true. We exchanged numbers. She called me first on Friday. I couldn't talk long and told her I would call her soon. I called on Monday night and left a vm telling her to call if she wanted. She called back @ 10 that night and we talked for about 5 minutes. I was just trying to set up a date. Apparently I kept saying that I would call her tomorrow (tuesday). I thought we made plans for tuesday night. I call her this afternoon and she says I must of misheard her because tonight is her aunts birthday. I told her I have something to do tomorrow night for a couple hours and am busy the rest of the week. She said we should get together tomorrow when I am done with my thing. We talked for about an hour today. I need advise on what to do next. Should I not call her tomorrow and wait for her to call even if it means not seeing her till next week? Should I not call her again until she calls me? Should I call her now and meet her for a quick bite? Any help would be appreciated.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Yeah. Just call her and setup a meet. Don't worry about looking "too available" and all that stuff.

I know situations when a guy needs to hold back and not be too available for a chick...but this doesn't feel like one of those. Her interest seems high enough, and she's not playing any games with you yet. Go for it now, and see where it takes you.
 

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The best advice is to make a damn move and just do it like Nike.

Case closed.
 

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So she texts me the next morning (Wed) and I call her when I wake up a couple of hours later and we talk for about an hour. She ends the call by telling me I better not cancel on her (Wed night) after my thing. I get a text from her later that day that she can't do it tonight "something important has come up". I text back no problem and she didn't call Thursday. What is my next move?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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yea. she text me friday morning saying her house flooded. Now I think she may be a clinger. lol. nonstop texting-calling. thanks
 

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How about some pics?


Could be crazy, if it's a little too easy (good to be true) it usually is.
 

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This chick could be crazy. Major issues. Pic I have does not show the body. She tries to make me feel jealous. Constant tests. Could be over though. I thought her pic had a facial abnormality on it and I pointed it out to her. She got freaked out and hasn't responded much this weekend. Could be over. This is my last two months of college. woooohoooooo. I can't have some crazy chick playing with my mind right now. She called this morning, but I did not answer and probably will not call unless she leaves me a message apologizing and telling me exactly why she did not respond well this weekend. I still need advice though if I am doing something wrong. I don't think ***** is in the cards. She is very religious. If I was going to talk to her it would be just for *****.
 

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post a pic via imageshack or something.. edit: didnt realize you don't have body pic, then no matter..


In any case, here is what i would do - I'd use her for social proof. I'd invite her out to parties and bars, and then other girls would go "damn that guy is with her, who is he?!" and you could tell him just who you are :)

if she starts acting crazy when you do this, then just drop her.
 
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I am not sure I could think of her as just social proof. It seems like when I talk to her I can't stop thinking about her. The way I see it, either she apologizes or I don't call. I don't have time for this ****.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Amazing said:
post a pic via imageshack or something..


In any case, here is what i would do - I'd use her for social proof. I'd invite her out to parties and bars, and then other girls would go "damn that guy is with her, who is he?!" and you could tell him just who you are :)

if she starts acting crazy when you do this, then just drop her.
What's with you and the pics, man? Jesus.:crackup:

Anyway, I don't know about using this girl for social proof. If ncontradiction wants to date this girl, then he shouldn't settle for second best. Either she's dating him, or he's dropping her.

And right now it sounds like too much drama for what he's getting out of it. I'd back off for a while.
 

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Don't drop her fast ... pursue other women while your at it. If she calls back just answer and setup a date, if she cancels again then yeah it's a lost cause. Keep her as a friend you never know, she may have hot friends.
 
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