"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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tbstimber12

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In need of Advice

So I've been an avid Don Juan reader for a few years now, and just finally registered for the forums because I need some advice.

I have this friend who I've been friends with for a little over 2 years. We initially became friends through a buddy of mine, and we were friends because we both were seeing other people at the time.

I never really thought of her as "more than a friend" until we had a little get together about a month ago when we went to a swing dance together.

She gave all the signs. Kino, flirting, it was all there, and it really made me change my mind about just being a friend with her.

After the date I basically told her I was interested in her, and that would couldn't just "be friends" anymore. I gave her some time to think about it and told her when I get back in town to let me know.

Did I handle this right??? Where should I go from here?? Thanks.
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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You probably made things worse. You turned what could've been an emotional decision into a rational one for her causing her to overanalyze the situation via introspection.
 

thefonz

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Re: In need of Advice

Originally posted by tbstimber12
So I've been an avid Don Juan reader for a few years now, and just finally registered for the forums because I need some advice.


I think your lying.....why would would you tell her your feelings if you were an avid reader?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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tbstimber12

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I never said

I never said I told her my feeling...I am not in love with this girl...I said I was interested in dating her...not being her friend
 
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You should have asked us first before you put your foot in your mouth - now it soesn't matter - the deed has been done!!

Whatever you do don't ask her again or initiate the call!!
 

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If I come up to you, and start telling you reasons on why I'm better than you, and everyone else in the world... telling you about my accomplishments, women i've nailed, will you believe me?

Would you expect me to be this person, if you see me with a hot GF, charismatic persona, positive, etc?

My point?

Don't ever let whatever you have to say get in the way of whatever you want to do.

What do I mean?

Don't talk, act. Show her whatever you want to show her, with actions, DJ actions, that is.
 

tbstimber12

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Yea I definately figured to let her make the next move, but I didn't think I could get off the "friend" ladder if I didn't tell her that I could just be her friend anymore.

Thanks for the advice everyone
 
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Originally posted by tbstimber12
Y.. but I didn't think I could get off the "friend" ladder if I didn't tell her that I could just be her friend anymore.
You should have asked her out dancing and grab her hand to slow dance and then gone for the kiss!! If she complys then you may have something if she would have turned her head in disgust then you would have known your answer.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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