"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I have created quite a few threads asking for advice on dates. From now on I will post my dates in this thread.

Texted with the low interest girl a bit. I think Harry is right. She is low interest. She answered quickly but short answers. I will verify the date later in the week. Its for Sat. I won't contact her unless she inicates except to tell her time and place of date.

I have a date tuesday with an easy lay. We will see how that goes. I dont need advice on this one. Could be a short term fb.

I have a date wednesday with a slender hb6.5. She has bright blue eyes and blazing red hair. This is the chick that gave me her number and then didnt respond. I tried again sent my pics and she answered immefiately. She said she was busy and i replyied that i would hit her up in a few days. This morning i sent her a text asking how her schedule looked. She replied within 5 mins and gave me a list of days. I picked one and set up the date.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I flaked on Tuesday date and set it up for Thursday. The woman agreed. I don't have a good feeling about her I am getting weird vibes. I was planing on banging her on the first date. I think I will just size her up on the first date. I dont want her to know where i live if she is nuts.
 

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My advice is stop playing "flake" games. That's stuff people with poor character do. Men should be above that.
 

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My advice is stop playing "flake" games. That's stuff people with poor character do. Men should be above that.
I have a good reason for flaking. I do have poor character. I am not above anything.
 

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Texted information about sat date to low interest chick and texted a bit. Sat will be last date unless its really good because I'm starting to lose interest.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I took action....I asked for a number today and got it. Nurse at the testosterone clinic.
 

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I took action....I asked for a number today and got it. Nurse at the testosterone clinic.
F a testosterone clinic, I do that sh!t myself, lol...not paying an arm and a leg for something I can do a lot cheaper on my own...

As for advice on dates I've got two things:

1) Always make a move in date and go for the kiss
2) Take their hand and put it on your c0ck at some point while you are making out.
 

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F a testosterone clinic, I do that sh!t myself, lol...not paying an arm and a leg for something I can do a lot cheaper on my own...

As for advice on dates I've got two things:

1) Always make a move in date and go for the kiss
2) Take their hand and put it on your c0ck at some point while you are making out.
It's only 21 bucks a shot...I have insurance. There is no way in hell that I can increase my testosterone to the level it needs to be naturally. As for the other tips ty. I need all the help I can get.
 

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Low interest chick wanted to change date to Friday. I gave her **** but did it. I was very close to saying next. I think after this date
I'm done unless it goes very well.

I think my date for tomorrow will flake. Sent her a text see you tomorrow wear something cute....no reply as of yet....

Sent a bunch of messages out on old....got some replies. I need to work on profile, pics or both. Many women read my message and went to my profile. Then no response..
 

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F a testosterone clinic, I do that sh!t myself, lol...not paying an arm and a leg for something I can do a lot cheaper on my own...

As for advice on dates I've got two things:

1) Always make a move in date and go for the kiss
2) Take their hand and put it on your c0ck at some point while you are making out.
Option 2 looks like pretty brazen sh!t...:D
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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It's only 21 bucks a shot...I have insurance. There is no way in hell that I can increase my testosterone to the level it needs to be naturally. As for the other tips ty. I need all the help I can get.
I'm on TRT also...I was just saying I do it myself, lol...my insurance needs 1000 hoops to jump through to get it covered...
 

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Didn't know you could do it yourself.
Yeah its simple...easy enough to locate the Testosterone online if you know where to look and are in the know about sites and people, can order the syringes and needles, etc...

I highly recommend going half Masteron/half Testosterone for your TRT...its phenomenal
 

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Sent out...messages on old. Got three bites. Chatted with one she said I was to pushy. Might have been. Will try to build a little report without investing loads of time. I was pushy because I asked for the date to soon.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Yeah its simple...easy enough to locate the Testosterone online if you know where to look and are in the know about sites and people, can order the syringes and needles, etc...

I highly recommend going half Masteron/half Testosterone for your TRT...its phenomenal
Since I can have a professional do it cheaply I will stay with that. How do you blood test for level?
 

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You can get labs done for cheap. God damn 21$ a shot? **** that. I'll take my UG test that's way cheaper for a vial. Also, with trt you won't be at surpaphysiolgical levels, just normal.

Check out private MD labs, get the female panel since that also checks for E2.
 

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Arab chick cancelled...as harry said low interest date tonight flaked.

Chatting with a 39 yo HB 7 on old. She is naughty. Likes sex and she is what I'm looking for very wild. Will try to set up date.
 

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You can get labs done for cheap. God damn 21$ a shot? **** that. I'll take my UG test that's way cheaper for a vial. Also, with trt you won't be at surpaphysiolgical levels, just normal.

Check out private MD labs, get the female panel since that also checks for E2.
TRT is great for fat loss...studies have shown even going from 300 to 600 results in 36% less fat, mostly around the midsection. This is mainly due to testosterone making muscle cells more sensitive to insulin while simultaneously making fat cells virtually resistant to insulin. Yeah test is cheap as hell, and once you are involved enough on certains forums you'll have plenty of access to legit places to get anything you want.

Depends on what state you are in regarding testing. In my state have to get a script to get hormone levels checked from doc which is complete BS in my opinion...

I can kill myself from smoking cigarrettes but I can't find out my hormonal levels?? GTFO...

Just added a new SARM RAD 140 into the mix which is interesting since in testing it reinforced and amplified the effect of testosterone as well as exerting its own anabolic effects...
 

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I am getting 180 MLG shot of I guess testosterone. They do level tests every six weeks. For 84 bucks a month it is worth it to me.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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