"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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A sh*t-test where the girls talks about guys she's slept with

The_Reaper

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You know, talking about the different guys she's hooked up with - maybe not necessarily banged, but kissed or made out with.

Example.

I'm emailing a chick who I was sleeping with for a week while she was in my city on holidays. In the emails, she occasionally mentions how she made out with various different guys of different nationalities and how some accents turn her on.

I'm interested to see what your opinions are on this behaviour.

Edit: My own input would be: do not respond in a sexual frame yourself. That's "taking the bait". You have to be unfazed by it.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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slaog said:
You're correct not to respond emotionally but maybe you could let her know that being a slvt isn't a great thing. If it effected you emotionally then she'd see a weakness in you.
I don't think I would say that, it's too obviously an emotional/judgemental reaction.

You can't change a woman anyway, so I think you've gotta accept it and be cool with the kind of person she is. It doesn't mean you have to accept her into your life or date her obviously, it just means you can either completely ignore her, or use her to your advantage (i.e. just have fun with it, and she could help you with other girls etc)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The_Reaper said:
I don't think I would say that, it's too obviously an emotional/judgemental reaction.

No its not an emotional reaction. Its like if a child was being naughty. It wouldn't cause you to react emotionally but you'd tell the child that you're not happy about it.


BTW I wasn't saying to tell her shes a slvt directly.


If you want this girl then go for it.
 

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An unphased 'Respect' or 'That's great', or play it C+F and do what's been said above - be silly and do 'accents'.
 

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nightcrawler said:
why don't you tell her you have a sexy accent?
Well, she already has heard it, and complimented me on it. She actually negged me a little, saying it's the reason she f*cked me.
 

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That's not a sh!t test so much as a signal that she's a complete slut. I wouldn't even grace it with a response.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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There's no such thing as a neg. Thinking about all the pickup BS is ruining your mind.. maybe she just likes accents, cool, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it as 3 billion other people probably enjoy them also
 

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Darth said:
That's not a sh!t test so much as a signal that she's a complete slut. I wouldn't even grace it with a response.
Maybe true.

I'm usually pretty good at detecting sluts, and with this chick I get the impression she's more of a c*ck-tease than a complete slut.

Before I banged her, I got some extreme LMR, and she told me she hadn't slept with anyone in a year. It had a ring of truth to it. She was pretty awful in bed, for starters, haha.

Edit: I swear to f*cking Christ, the moderation for words on this forum is fcking retarded. "Wh*re, "C*ck" - what kind of fckin BS is this? We're all adults here.
 

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everywomanshero said:
There's no such thing as a neg. Thinking about all the pickup BS is ruining your mind.. maybe she just likes accents, cool, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it as 3 billion other people probably enjoy them also
I'm not applying the concept of "neg" to this situation. I'm applying the term, which perfectly fits a real-world event - a slight teasing insult.

The pickup BS does mess with people's minds - I agree with that. I don't use it, ever. I'm natural all the way. But I find the PUA lingo very useful as shorthand.
 

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WHY SO SERIOUS? Turn it into a joke, like the post above us a British accent and turn it sexual. This shows the I DONT GIVE A **** attitude at its best
 

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Yeah, it’s kind of like reverse preselection, in a way it’s her way of raising her own value. She’s basically saying “I’m high value, I’m the sh*t, and I have guys chasing after me all the time” but she calibrated it to where she isn’t a slut, hence why she just makes out with them and doesn’t go the full 9 yards, because then she would be a slut.

It’s kind of her roundabout way of qualifying herself to you, which is actually a good thing because it’s a sign that she’s trying to win you over. So just let her do her thing. Like you said, as long as you’re not fazed by it.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Kevin Feng said:
Yeah, it’s kind of like reverse preselection, in a way it’s her way of raising her own value. She’s basically saying “I’m high value, I’m the sh*t, and I have guys chasing after me all the time” but she calibrated it to where she isn’t a slut, hence why she just makes out with them and doesn’t go the full 9 yards, because then she would be a slut.

It’s kind of her roundabout way of qualifying herself to you, which is actually a good thing because it’s a sign that she’s trying to win you over. So just let her do her thing. Like you said, as long as you’re not fazed by it.
Awesome. Very impressive level of understanding. Niicccee.
 
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