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I admire how you can write about how girls treat you vs your hot wing, concluding with things like this "Tall girls make one final play for my friend, tell him again that he’s hot and she’s attracted and kind of ask if he wants to come back with her, but he blows her off and they leave." and then still keep going like a duracell rabbit with the pua stuff lol. You're determined to play the numbers game at least which you definitely have going for you, I don't think most guys are.... and of course you've nailed some of them in the past so you know it can pay off eventually.
I'm just kind of used to it, tbh. I have 2-3 very good looking friends. It's been rubbed in my face since I was about 14 with them sleeping with the prettiest girls despite bad 'game' etc - and I guess you kind of become accustomed too it lol
I know I can't compete with handsome guys, but I know that If I approach enough, I can eventually find a hot girl who thinks i'm hot, I guess.


Very insightful, I guess looks helps with game after all
lol, no sh1t. When it comes to cold approach, they're the most important thing by FAR! Some hot 18 year old doesn't care if you have money and a good job or have 'game' or whatever - She isn't wanna go home with you unless she is physically attracted. Luckily, not all girls have traditional tastes in terms of looks in my experience
 
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Going to my cousins later and this girl is gonna be there. Gonna try my luck. Any magic game PUA advice one can use to force attraction in a girl? i.e - ''seduction''?? :) haha
 

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Experience LMR for, I think the firts time ever in maybe 40 or so lays. I honestly thought it was just something that happened to other people and not me lol

I was gaming some young (20?)Russian girl. I mentioned her in a prior FR. She was the girl who recognised me from tinder and I gamed her for a bit and we danced and made out but she wouldn’t let me come back with her

So I bump into her agian last night, and she was the one doing the chasing. A few times I was chatting with other girls and she’d interreupt. Near closing time I said something like ”Let’s go back to your place” and she agreed.

We had a little kiss on the walk. At one point she said she’d never had a one night stand or banged some guy she’d just met.

Ordinarily I’d assume that was complete sh1t, but could it be the case bearing in mind she’s Russian? I don’t know

Either way, we got in bed, and she basically shut the ****ing gate lol. Tried a few PUA tricks to break the LMR but it wasn’t happening.

IN the morning I started rubbing her as I was spooning her, but even though she didn’t resist, she certainly wasn’t encouraging me (which most girls do when I instigate morning sex)

I gave up. Was tempted to just escalate more and more, but It just felt weird, tbh. Like some horny rapist feeling her up lol

Got her number and stuff but i’m new to LMR. Been lucky enough to basically never ever experience it. Is it dead with her now? Does she tihink i’m a pu$$y and I should have at least pushed harder this morning? I feel like I might have instantly slipped into the friendzone or something

 
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So I had a flashback and, on the walk back to her place, she asked me what her name was and I didn't know!! I now think that THAT might have been the reason that she completely shut the gate on me....?////.....
 

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@DEEZEDBRAH - I think you're the only person I can think of who's left on this forum who tends to speak about approaching and game and stuff, so i'd like your opinion on that latest girl. Do you think i'm right in that my retard memory (forgetting her name) was the main issue? Nothing I could have done back at her place after she rejected the idea of sex hard!?
Also, i'm likely to see her again soonish as I live in a small town. Likely a lost cause now?
 

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ps - anyone know any active forums that I could move this journal too? (I know lots of them closed down in recent months)
 

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meh, this sh1ts painful to read
So I had a flashback and, on the walk back to her place, she asked me what her name was and I didn't know!! I now think that THAT might have been the reason that she completely shut the gate on me....?////.....
yea, you had her in bed. Alot of chicks wont fvck in the night when you sleep over, anti-slvt. Morning is where you went wrong, as long as she DOES NOT push you away, keep going.. unless she says NO or physically moves you away. Rub the azz and keep going, put the stiff against her but dont try dry fvck. The 20yo I plated did this, she didnt respond... no yes, no no, no nothing... until i got on top and she spead her lips.

top tip: most ONS do not want you to romantically kiss them, at all, period.
 

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It was the forgetting her name thing that done it, I think. It was dead at that point. Russian girls are more reserved and that probably sent her ASD through the fukking roof

If you'd have tried to escalate hard on her in the morning, she'd have freaked out. If she had have wanted you to carry on touching her more, you've have known (in my experience, girls grab you back under teh covers and make noises etc)

Don't catch a sexual assault charge trying to escalate on girls who don't want to be escalated on lol
 
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Good journal. You seem to understand that it's purely a numbers game and is about finding the 'yes girls', and accepting that most girls will be strong 'no girls' who aren't attracted to you, and who you will never be able to get no matter how good your 'game'
 

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Go out with my wing. Make an approach on an average girl to try to get warmed up. Comment on her outfit and we chat for a few mins.

Go to the bar. There's a really pretty girl next to me wearing glasses. Looks like a super hot teen nerd girl. I try to kind of 'catch her eye' but it's like i'm invisible. I decided not to open which was technically the wrong thing to do (being a *****), although I later saw her making out with her girlfriend so no great loss. (ps - anyone else noticed an increase in lesbians?! I swear to God I notice this more then EVER nowadays!!)

Me and my friend open these 2 hot girls - one celebrating her 19th birthday. I lie about my age to give myself a fighting chance and we are soon chatting. It gets mildly flirty. They want us to come to the club they're going too, but it's full of 18 year olds and I feel a bit out of place there and tbh find it kind of frustrating to be surrounded by what seem like unnattainable beauties!! She give me her insta and tells me to message her. (I message her last night quite late and it's now 1pm the next day and no reply so probably a dead lead)

My friend bails on me. I'm now flying solo. Nooooo!!!

I pick up my balls and approach a fairly hot girl to my left. She somehow knows who I am. (Guess that's the result of cold approaching every weekend in a small town!!) Her friend joins her. 3 of us chat and laugh for a bit but they eject after 10 mins or so.

I open another another girl. A little older. 30. She's very friendly. Then her friend joins us and teh 3 of us chat. Convo is flowing. They invite me to the next bar with them. I buy us all drinks (I don't do this usually but my friend ditched me and so I kind of wanted to reward them in a way for helping me not be a loner all night!). Pretty soon the one I approached is flirting hard. She's married, though. She's showing me hot pics of herself on her phone, telling me she's 'bored' of her hubby and likes to have fun.

Thing is, even though she's fairly hot, she's not totally my type. ''No pedo'', but I really am into the younger girls so much more. Like 18-23. Also, the married thing. I don't really wanna go there so i'm dodging her attempts to kiss me like Tyson Fury.

In the mean time, 2 young guys are speaking to me and the girls. One drunk guy but he's nice, and his friend looks about 12 and he's very shy and awkward.

Anyway, after a few mins of me kind of dodging her kisses, I go to the bathroom thinking i've saved a marriage and am patting myself on the back, and when I come back to the bar, she's got her tongue shoved down the throat of the very young looking shy dude! haha.

I don't think he could believe his luck. She just pounced on him. I decided to leave 20 mins or so after that. Not sure if the shy kid was able to close her or not.

I pussied out on a few approaches now. Hot girl on the bench. I was about too approach her, but I overheard her brutally rejected some other guy who opened her for being too old and ugly. I think he was better looking than me and probably on a few years older so I thought i'd save my ego!!

Saw another really hot girl in the cab rank. Was about to try a last ditch open, but then her GIRLFRIEND rocked up and they started making out. Lesbians everywhere!
 
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