"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
A complicated position, need some experienced advice...
- Thread starter mikehelms
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
personally, i would shoot her a text saying something along the lines of, "whoops, missed your drunk texts last night lol". so that it isn't too obvious you are turning up your game.
it is obvious that you are gonna get these eventually, so i wouldn't make it so blatant that you are "turning on your game" so to speak.
another angle could be just to invite her out to a social gathering with mutual friends, as opposed to a place to lay her. don't be attached to the outcome, and just have fun. if she's diggin you, she'll give you signs.
i would hold out in contacting her, especially if you always see each other at certain hangouts. give it some more time and chat her up a little when you see her.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
As far as dealing with her, and guitar dude (who again, I am friendly with)
Thanks guys.
Iwas thinking doing flirty stuff like grabbing her ass when no one is paying attention, then just going back to what I was doing... yeah?
Thing is, whenever we're both on facebook she ALWAYS chats me up within minutes of seeing me online and wants to talk forever, until I inevitably cut it short because I'm busy. If I was in the complete friend zone I wouldn't see why she's want to talk to me nonstop, but I could be way off base here. Who knows. She's def. still into the other guy and I just have to deal with that, and I don't really know how other than pretending that I don't notice / it doesn't faze me and just act the same around her.
jophil28
Master Don Juan
Mikley, mikey mikey, a lot of women have no scruples in their relationships with men. To them, the end justifies the means. And the end in this case is this -mikehelms said:Thing is, whenever we're both on facebook she ALWAYS chats me up within minutes of seeing me online and wants to talk forever, until I inevitably cut it short because I'm busy. If I was in the complete friend zone I wouldn't see why she's want to talk to me nonstop, but I could be way off base here.
She is using you to fill the vacant parts that are left in her emotional life by her detached, guitar whiz, bada$$ B/f. To her, this is quite OK , even though you can bet her B/f does not know about it.
Why do you think that woman recruit 'orbiters' ?
The answer to that is exactly why she recruited you.
Abandon this chase man. IT isn't going to happen for you...You are starting to come off like some soppy lovesick teenage chick who is hot for some zitty brat who plays in a garage band.
Take up the saxophone and get your own groupies..
Just saying.
jophil28
Master Don Juan
Geez, Drunk texting hardly equates to high INTEREST level .Thats really a stretch.mikehelms said:Talked to her for a few mins and took off to another bar. Woke up today to 2 drunken texts from her, just randomness. "Heeeyyy" and "Yooooohooo"
Can't be bad, obviously I'm on her mind it seems. And obviously I didn't reply.
Secondly , her articulation is primitive. I can imagine a farmhand yelling out those utterances to some milk cows. That are not what I would call affectionate.
Thirdly, how do you conclude that a drunken text is a sure indication of her "having you on her mind " ?
You are trying to make sense out of nonsense.
Post back when she is smiling and unzipping in front of you at your house.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
TheLadiesMan
Master Don Juan
..and vocalists are too, they can almost be worse sometimes.
Always remember.. if she ain't showing any class, put it in her a$$.