"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

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Lol I saw this on the news last night

They said on the news last night that 5'4" and 165lbs is the average height and weight for an American woman now.

Little fat midget girls in America now
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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You can thank the weight part to McDonalds and the other fast fatty foods. As for the height.. I dunno what to say. :O
 

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Skel said:
Lol I saw this on the news last night

They said on the news last night that 5'4" and 165lbs is the average height and weight for an American woman now.

Little fat midget girls in America now
Oh, now that is completely fvcked up. Where's my passport??!!
 

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f' that..... My wife's 5' 8", 130. :D

If she's really cute, the 5' 4" is forgiveable. But 165 at that height; awe h*ll no!
 

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5' 4" is the average height of women guys... Men are about 5' 9" in average height.

I like 5' 4"... Then again... I'm not exactly a tall guy...

165 though... crap man... that's pretty bad...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Hahaha. You guys gotta be kiddin' me. Either you are bad at guessing weight, or are blind, as most women are either overweight or obese. Most men are 200+ after certain age. And no, I don't care how many "DJ" skills you attempt to learn here, if you want to pull thin healthy, think hot women, you better start taking care of yourself. But "I thought looks weren't important to women, as long as you got game!", well, a healthy, attractive woman knows that she doesn't want a man who doesn't take care of himself, specially for a LTR.

Yes, those porkers, fat girls you see everyday, are not only 165, but closer to 200+. More than half. Even the thick ones, who still look descent, are closer to that 165 mark.
 

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This is why I laugh at guys on here from America/Uk/Canada who talk about all the "hot" girls they see around them. No you don't! Most are fat. This isn't 1984. The Culture Club are no more and The Wall has finally come down. About the only thin group in America these days are gay men.

BTW, if you want tall thin lanky girls go to Lithuania, Latvia, Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia, Bosnia, or Slovenia. The Balkans and Eastern Baltics produce freaks (ever notice all the NBA players from tiny countries like Slovenia and Lithuania?). I think the Dutch are the tallest Western Europeans, but they are still short compared to some of the skywalkers you see in places like Kaunas, Lithuania.
 

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Kerpal said:
:down:

Ever read the Craigslist personals? A lot of them are women who list their measurements as "5'4, 165 lbs" or similar numbers... and they go on and on about how the person they want to meet has to look (tall, dark hair, muscular, etc).

:rolleyes:

Those numbers you list there are what the normal/average woman looks like. Thick. The ones on those personals say they weight 165 because that is what "average" is nowadays. In reality they are closer to 205lbs.
 

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5'4" is my just about my ideal height (I think I'd maybe prefer 5'3"), but yeah, that weight is pretty messed up
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
Those numbers you list there are what the normal/average woman looks like. Thick. The ones on those personals say they weight 165 because that is what "average" is nowadays. In reality they are closer to 205lbs.
At 165lbs a woman has to be at least my height (5"11) for me to consider her fit. There's no way in hell I'd consider a woman much heavier than that. Actually the scary thing is that a lot of larger women profess that the reason that they go for guys bigger (fatter) than them is so that they would look smaller!!! What the hell is this world coming to??!!! :confused:
 

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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
At 165lbs a woman has to be at least my height (5"11) for me to consider her fit. There's no way in hell I'd consider a woman much heavier than that. Actually the scary thing is that a lot of larger women profess that the reason that they go for guys bigger (fatter) than them is so that they would look smaller!!! What the hell is this world coming to??!!! :confused:
They don't "go for them", if they had a choice, they would go with the guy with the great body. Most will avoid a skinny guy, but ideally they want average to muscular. Hey, they get what they can get, just like us, they have their preferences.

I didn't say 165lbs was fit, it is just average, as in what the average population is. Not the way she should be. That would be overweight.
 

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This shocked me when I first saw it. I can guess a girls weight between 100-125 pounds but over that i'm no good. 165 seemed really high to me because on a really short girl, like 5-4 125 can be sort of fat. Oh well, there are still beautiful skinny girls in America.

And Dutch? I've never been to the Netherlands but i've known a couple of girls from there and they just weren't pretty. Same with Germany, the girls I've met from there all seemed very manly. I guess I just need to visit so I can have a realistic perspective.
 

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5'4" 125 not fat at all. Most will look kinda thin at that weight (at least the ones that are not lying about their weight), girl will look thick (if proportionate) at 140 if she's about 5'4". Anything lower than 120, very thin; good as long as they have hips and a$s.
 

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Height aint attractive. I would always rather my women be shorter than me. However the weight average is worrying but not surprising. Wonder what the average is for Australia
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
Hey, they get what they can get, just like us, they have their preferences.
That right there is such a great quote. Their laundry lists are wish lists, but what they want and what they get are always different.

Saying that, I cant believe how fat American women must be if thats the national average now. We hear of obesity being a problem in the USA, but we always get to see Paris Hilton and Pamela Anderson.

Throw in their sparking personalities, and it sounds like you guys are living in paradise :)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

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meitenesrigas said:
This is why I laugh at guys on here from America/Uk/Canada who talk about all the "hot" girls they see around them. No you don't! Most are fat. This isn't 1984. The Culture Club are no more and The Wall has finally come down. About the only thin group in America these days are gay men.

BTW, if you want tall thin lanky girls go to Lithuania, Latvia, Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia, Bosnia, or Slovenia. The Balkans and Eastern Baltics produce freaks (ever notice all the NBA players from tiny countries like Slovenia and Lithuania?). I think the Dutch are the tallest Western Europeans, but they are still short compared to some of the skywalkers you see in places like Kaunas, Lithuania.

While alot of American girls might not be "skinny" and alot could stand to lose 5 to 15lbs, but most ARE NOT obese. Super skinny girls are actually a turn off.

I agree though, Eastern Europeans are alot better looking than Americans.
 

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Smallest girl I ever got with measured herself in front me and she only weighed 85, that was f*cked up. Not skinny though, just real short, like 4'10-11, and she was older than me, in her mid 20s.

I have a complete aversion to chicks who are overweight, even if its only slightly. I mean how does a person allow it to happen to themselves? I feel like sh1t if Ive put on 2lbs, like some sweaty fat f*ck.
 

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...Saying that, I cant believe how fat American women must be if thats the national average now. We hear of obesity being a problem in the USA, but we always get to see Paris Hilton and Pamela Anderson....
We can't get the fat ones to fit into the camera shot.
 

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Women tend to have less muscle mass, and muscle weights more than fat, so one has to be a bit careful at identifying attractive weights.

With my wife at 5'8", 130, those stats would sound really small (including the weight part) if we were talking about a man. But when I look at her, she has a nice round, and plump ass and great shoulders.

What i'm saying is weight is a bit deceiving with women because all that softness they have takes up space but it doesn't weight as much. She's toned even too cause she works out most days, but even a toned women still doesn't have near the muscle mass that the average man does.

In short, I'm ok with men having a BMI at 25, maybe even a 26-27 if they're working out, but for women, I'd personally not want much above 22 BMI unless she's really into body building and has quite a bit of muscle mass to account for the extra weight.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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