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OMG that is horrible!

I'm 5'6 and ~150 lbs. So the average woman is a little bit shorter than me but 15 lbs heavier :down: Yeah thats bad.

That really limits the amount of available woman simply because I won't go after a girl who weighs more than I do.
 

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Maxtro said:
OMG that is horrible!

I'm 5'6 and ~150 lbs. So the average woman is a little bit shorter than me but 15 lbs heavier :down: Yeah thats bad.

That really limits the amount of available woman simply because I won't go after a girl who weighs more than I do.
It's not like anyone else here will be going after them either.
 

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kabatura said:
This shocked me when I first saw it. I can guess a girls weight between 100-125 pounds but over that i'm no good. 165 seemed really high to me because on a really short girl, like 5-4 125 can be sort of fat. Oh well, there are still beautiful skinny girls in America.

And Dutch? I've never been to the Netherlands but i've known a couple of girls from there and they just weren't pretty. Same with Germany, the girls I've met from there all seemed very manly. I guess I just need to visit so I can have a realistic perspective.
You must be smoking some serious funky stuff!! Props to you if you are happy with what you see and where you are at. That is all that should matter for you. I just think that most guys wouldn't agree with you. 5'4" and 125 pounds is obese as far as I am concerned. I haven't spent much time in Germany, but I didn't really find them to be manly. Tons of Turks there these days. I just remember thinking that the entire place was going Turkish. I thought that German girls looked a bit like American girls did back in the 80's. Not bad, but nothing amazing. I find Germans to be really happy people. At least compared to many other groups of Europeans. Not as happy as the Scandanavians though. Those people are spooky happy. I would say that German girls are better looking than Italians, French, or Spanish. Of course, Poland and Czech Republic are next door to Germany. Both of those countries easily outpace Germany for beauty. The farther east you head in Europe the better things get for you.

Dutch females? I spend hours at the Amsterdam airport waiting for connecting flights. I haven't really explored the country though. The airport is pretty easy to connect from. It went totally non-smoking at the beginning of this year. I can remember getting off planes at 5 AM and having a sandwich at that French sandwich place that is connected to Segafreddo (across from the Irish themed pub). Use to be nothing but smoke in my face. Now the air is clean. Kinda miss the smoke in my face. Anyway, about the dutch females I see there...MMM...Again, TONS of diversity. So it is hard to single out the ethnic Dutch. From what I have seen though they seem rather large. By large I mean not as long and lanky as Eastern European girls. More of a thick build which I can't stomach. Nice thing about the Dutch though is they all seem to speak really solid English and seem like pretty friendly folks.

I only have issues with American and UK/Irish females. Has nothing to do with their lack of good looks. It does have everything to do with their rotten attitudes. Most of you wouldn't be on here if American girls were not so spoiled and demanding. Certain countries produce outstanding girls with outstanding attitudes. They are easier to be around. They are much warmer people. The cold and distant vibe you get from Tiffany-Ann is not there. That makes approaching them easier. No need to play stupid negging games with'em.
 

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Skel said:
Lol I saw this on the news last night

They said on the news last night that 5'4" and 165lbs is the average height and weight for an American woman now.

Little fat midget girls in America now

I'm sure that includes all women...even the ones aged 50+. So yeah, they're gonna throw off that average a bit.
 

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azanon said:
Women tend to have less muscle mass, and muscle weights more than fat, so one has to be a bit careful at identifying attractive weights.

With my wife at 5'8", 130, those stats would sound really small (including the weight part) if we were talking about a man. But when I look at her, she has a nice round, and plump ass and great shoulders.

What i'm saying is weight is a bit deceiving with women because all that softness they have takes up space but it doesn't weight as much. She's toned even too cause she works out most days, but even a toned women still doesn't have near the muscle mass that the average man does.

In short, I'm ok with men having a BMI at 25, maybe even a 26-27 if they're working out, but for women, I'd personally not want much above 22 BMI unless she's really into body building and has quite a bit of muscle mass to account for the extra weight.
BMI of 25 is obese. But BMI is a weak measurement. It factors in weight, not body fat %.

Im a musclehead. According to the BMI rating, I am obese. I have 14% body fat at the moment.
 

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AgonyUncle said:
BMI of 25 is obese. But BMI is a weak measurement. It factors in weight, not body fat %.

Im a musclehead. According to the BMI rating, I am obese. I have 14% body fat at the moment.
The BMI scale is just fine. Bodybuilders seldom remember to use the waist to hip ratio in their BMI calculations. There's a huge difference in the waist size of someone with 14% bodyfat and somone who has 25% or more.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
The BMI scale is just fine. Bodybuilders seldom remember to use the waist to hip ratio in their BMI calculations. There's a huge difference in the waist size of someone with 14% bodyfat and somone who has 25% or more.

Such as? I'm still trying to figure it out. My waist size is 31"-32" and my bodyfat is around 9%-10% but I don't trust the BF measurements.
 

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Being_the_Don said:
Such as? I'm still trying to figure it out. My waist size is 31"-32" and my bodyfat is around 9%-10% but I don't trust the BF measurements.
What's considered healthy across the board is a ratio of .8 for women and .9 for men no matter how much you weigh. Anything 1 or above typically means that the person could have a health risk especially if their waist size is much greater than 35".
 

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Mrs. Tomassi is 5' 11" 127lbs., very fit, good definition and is 43. Heh,..you guys have fun with your pocket trolls now,..


Seriously though, most people's perception of what is fat and what's not is usually modified by the company they keep. I can remember getting run up the flagpole by the ladies from a previous job I had for saying I thought some celebrity was fat. "Their" fat was not "my" relative fat. In fact anyone heavier than themselves was usually chubby or slightly overweight and anyone thinner than them was anorexic. Granted, I have notoriously high standards for what I consider 'hot', but I know fat when I see it and all these ladies we're fat. Being the thinnest girl of your peer group doesn't mean you're not fat.
 
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