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There are many female late bloomers
Many invest their good years in holding upon a bad relationship and the next years blaming the men until hopefully they come to realize nobody is there to blame
They blame Themselves.

They learn the definition of the word "accountability".

Women/Men interactions change when you have decided decades ago not to reproduce or raise children.

The first screening information to discover about a potential mate is whether they are sterile or not.
The second screening information to discover about a potential mate is whether they like avoiding raising children or not.

Any holding onto bad relationships were simply placeholders/boredom fillers/practice until a sterile, childfree by choice mate is found.
 

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If you are 25+ and you are not married and not in a serious relationship then the problem is you ( as a woman). Usually these women just don't get good dating advice. I used to have female friends that i would give dating advice to. I have a little sister in her early 20s. They all called me with the most retarded ideas about what they should be doing. The advice women get from dating magazines is "Be a challenge". Some advice says " dont text back too quickly". This is all ridiculous advice. Women are even clueless about what will keep a guy. This is why many put out quickly not realizing that they are shooting themselves in the foot.

We have this idea that women are socially more advanced than men when it comes to dating. This is absolutely false. They come off as more advanced because they have sexual bargaining power. This is their only trump card. Most post 25+ have no game. They are clueless. This is why they are single and cant figure out why. I feel sorry for them because many of them actually mean well. Its just that they dont know what works to keep a man. No one teaches them. They think that putting out quickly or not texting back or playing hard to get keeps a guy.

The women that get it right are the ones that are married. These woman have true "game". These women are functional reasonable humans and are married early. They usually come from small town America and married an average dude. They didnt play too many games. They got married in their very early twenties and moved on with their lives. Getting that wedding ring from a guy that is stable and wants to provide for you is the definition of a female Don Juan. What we are seeing now is girls that are left over. The AFC of women is what is left over. These are girls that cant spot, attract (non sexually) and keep a guy to save their life. I asked one of my female relatives that is very attractive and single why she passed up good guys. She said "because they are boring". Case closed. That is a female AFC. No game. So she wont reach her goal of wife and kids.

Now a caveat to this is ugly girls. They actually have it rough. This only applies to average to hot chicks.
Rollo is a annoying curmudgeon and his rants are getting even weirder lately but, I agree with him that ^^^ this herein lies with the female blue pill. Oprah. Feminism, girl power, fish bicycle rhetoric, and sloot gonna sloot. I have no faith in women nor western society and democracy. I have subscribed to the Aaron Clarey enjoy the decline. Pillage what I can. Game is life and sport. Play the game and hand you are dealt BUT i am charging up my troll cannon when bishs talking cereal relationship and marriage. Not happening now or ever.

The west is dead. I saw a woman climb up on a cop car and dedicate. How great is her life? That is the best way to go about your journey and life path.

There's that infamous picture, "Hand of God" painting. You A Man is a conduit between man and God. You play that role. You have dominion over everything. You extend your hand. She comes with or is left behind lost in the abyss of single mother victimhood and post wall CC #donotwant land.

After more than a decade of game and COLD APPROACH, i never met a woman I would marry, start a family with, and play house. This was the first thing i intended when blue pill and before learning game. After the game, I know female nature and I crushed it with only catch and release in mind. There is only women. Meanwhile hotter girls are turning 18 19 20 21 every day.


@Pandora, even 25+ isn't peak SMV 18-23. My grandfather had no game. He could have worked minimum wage, fug ditches or cleaned toilets (he didn't). The point was he pulled 18 not busted or post wall. He is a man. He is part of the greatest generation of men raised. The women were still hypergamy on tren. They were still a million times better than the women today.

I came here to figure out what was going on, to upgrade software and hardware. I have come to realize that the culture is degenerate and that women are disgusting most of the time. Outside sex, they will be valueless. They don't cook or clean. They carry STDs and high kill count. The fallout will be what shifts women from CC not because she found God but they cannot compete.

Our grandfather did it right but they were a time women were women. They had a society that embodied their minds and they were tough. The current situation is terrible and i see how bad it is.

I lost my mind about the times I pickup SJW or feminists after pulling. The girl may or may not identify as a feminists but her actions, behaviour, and attitude has been conditioned to act as such.

Enjoy the decline. Pillage what you can. If you want a wife, discover time travel. You were born in the wrong place and time.
 

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They blame Themselves.
I dont sure if it's true

This blame thing is a pattern I already familiar with, and it's common to low wealth families

To this day I trying to figure out why certain close person did not wanted me and yet will not let me go, and the more I think about this the more crazy I become, because in my head there is a reasonable explanation that we both can come to, but eventually I understand that I'm not dealing with a reasonable person.

Same is here

Blaming is a form of manipulation
Even when you try to blame yourself for things you've done and assume they were wrong and now you need to take responsibility - this is manipulation, and this is the must dangerous form of manipulation because as long as you blaming your self you wont free your self from blaming the other = reactive, narcissism

Ideally you should not blame
Blame the system only because it is fckd up lol
But the system is something you able to deal with, ppl on the opposite is a different story
 

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I dont sure if it's true

This blame thing is a pattern I already familiar with, and it's common to low wealth families

To this day I trying to figure out why certain close person did not wanted me and yet will not let me go, and the more I think about this the more crazy I become, because in my head there is a reasonable explanation that we both can come to, but eventually I understand that I'm not dealing with a reasonable person.

Same is here

Blaming is a form of manipulation
Even when you try to blame yourself for things you've done and assume they were wrong and now you need to take responsibility - this is manipulation, and this is the must dangerous form of manipulation because as long as you blaming your self you wont free your self from blaming the other = reactive, narcissism

Ideally you should not blame
Blame the system only because it is fckd up lol
But the system is something you able to deal with, ppl on the opposite is a different story
That is a new way of thinking to me.

For almost 5 years I have been blaming myself and not the other person.

I need to think about this.
This can affect how I make amends to others. I would like to find a quote and you tell me what you think.
Let me find it.

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I expect them to see and value my progress, but they don't---unless I show them.
Do I neglect their needs and desires for my attention and concern? When I'm around them, am I irritable or boring? Are my 'amends' a mumbled"Sorry", or do they take the form of patience and tolerance? Do I preach to them, trying to reform or 'fix' them? Have I really cleaned house with them?

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Another quote I found @Jack12345 ,
"How easily I can become misdirected in approaching the Eighth Step! I wish to be free, somehow transformed by my Sixth and Seventh Step work. Now more than ever, I am vulnerable to my own self-interest and hidden agenda. I am careful to remember that self-satisfaction, which sometimes comes through the spoken forgiveness of those I have harmed, is not my true objective. I become willing to make amends, knowing that through this process I am mended and made fit to move forward, to know and desire (my Higher Power's) will for me."
 

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I don't know if given the mating environment that you can call women 25+ who are unmarried AFC's.

Almost all the women I've met during my time as an adult were not married on their 25th birthday. The median age at first marriage now is around 28 for a woman. In my social circle, which is a combination of people with bachelor's and master's degrees, the wedding cycle occurred around 28-32. My circle isn't a representative sample. I've know women who eventually married the person they were with on their 25th birthday. Women who get a BA/BS degree or higher tend to marry even later than the median age for all women.

Very few women now marry their high school or college sweetheart. I know of one couple formed in my freshman year dorm that got married. Almost all the college relationships from my undergrad years (I graduated 15 years ago) dissipated before marriage. They mostly dissipated by the time the participants were 25.

The current mating environment is bad. There's a point that the quality of women on the market gets worse as aging happens, but I think that really kicks in by 30. 25-29 is ok.

There's also a difference between men and women. Men with no romantic success are incels. Incels get no sex and no relationships. Women with no romantic success are insols (involuntary solitude). Insols at least getting regular sex and a lot of attention from men. They just aren't getting commitment. Insols are more mainstream in the cultural narrative than incels. Insols usually have more female friends are more socially adept.
 
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For almost 5 years I have been blaming myself and not the other person.
No wonder. Blame and self blame is a common tactic used in the self improvement sphere
Nothing wrong with self improvement, but you should to be able to understand when someone sincerely wanting your good or when hes using you (many times without knowing this)
 

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No wonder. Blame and self blame is a common tactic used in the self improvement sphere
Nothing wrong with self improvement, but you should to be able to understand when someone sincerely wanting your good or when hes using you (many times without knowing this)
ok, I understand what you mean.
I will watch out for that, thank you Sir!
 

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yeh bro i kinda agree with you. I know that i am messed up. Ive had good women before and i could be married. But like LARaiders85 said its not exactly equal playing field. Because i had to really settle because as a man i never really had too many options. But these women have endless options to find the guy that they want (within reason) and they still couldnt find him. Trust me if i had 100 messages in my dating inbox a month, best believe i would have found a wife by now. I think most guys would have.
Respect. @Pandora mate, keep putting up the good fight.

The more i know, the more i cannot fathom the concept of playing house. The more likely fellas remain bachelor or settled in cuckoldry in all its forms (ie post wall, post cc, single moms, and not top form SMV 18-23). Rollo for instance married epiphany phase which is notorious for the bait and switch. CC before backward rationalise needing to be serious magically. Found Jesus. There's no equal. Not all things are equal.

I again subscribe to the Aaron Clarey enjoy the decline. Pillage what you can. One of the most important things to recognise is the fact, people's lives are going to be garbage due to being a slob. The current status quo is life on easy mode and women get fat. Note, media says women are plus size. Men are overweight. Women are often handed freebies and easy mode. Its not till SMV craters when they want to find Jesus and play nice. Too little too late.

The white girl who took a dump on a cop car; disgusting woman. Imagine how ****ty her life is? Enjoy the decline.


In my years of game and pickup, I lost count of pulling top form SMV 18-23 and running into a train wreck from the past. Always, single mother victimhood, post wall, high body count fat and life is a dumpster fire.






Sit back with that smug look on your face and know life trolls women harder than you or i ever could. Lulz
 

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Women dont need game all they gotta do is ipen their legs to some simp and they are golden or tramp him some other way
 

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If you really want to know someone.. look at the people they hang around, it should give you a pretty good idea.
Birds of a feather....
 

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I had a friend who volunteered at this arts/dance center. He always invited me and told me it was the best place to meet women on weekends. I scoffed at the idea for months. I even accused him of being gay for doing all that yoga/salsa sh1t with women. Meanwhile, I was getting b1tch shields left and right at the clubs.

And then divine intervention happened. The Universe was sick and tired of me banging my head against the wall and unable to seduce my way out of a paper bag, so one evening, all of my wings called off. So I called my friend who volunteered at the arts/dance center what he was up to and he said there was a festival going on at the place and invited me.

I had nothing going on so I reluctantly went. However, this was during a time when I lad a low tolerance of being in social places on a weekend night sober. To me, the very thought of it was boring as hell so I brought myself a flask of whiskey.

When I got there, there was probably 50+ women in tight yoga pants with shapely butts. My friend introduced me to some of his female friends. They asked me personal questions about myself, seemed genuinely nice, and even borderline flirtatious. I thought to myself "Wait a minute, this feels like how adults should interact. Not all that neg/b1tch shield stuff." In comparison, the bars/clubs felt like high school for adults.

I wasn't completely calibrated to social environment game at the time and a few women suggested I do something with them sometime and it completely flew over my head. I just nodded like "Yeah definitely. Maybe we'll run into each other again." And then I would stand there awkwardly. And the women would be completely confused and probably thought to themselves "For a handsome guy, he's completely oblivious. Is he a virgin?"

One woman even straight up stuck her tongue out at me insinuating a bl0wjob. I thought it was my imagination so I just brushed it off and didn't think nothing of it.

At the end of the night my friend said to me "Dude your game sucks. I saw at least 5 women throw themselves at you and you just stood there awkwardly."

I said to him "My bad bro. I haven't had this many sexy women aggressively flirt with me since I was in the military. It felt like the twilight zone. "

Since then, I've discovered that as long as you are not socially awkward and reasonably attractive, women WILL invite you to be alone with them through some form of plausible deniability in social circles/environments of shared interests.

That environment to me was akin to man discovering fire. I no longer cared for cold approaching after that point.

I discovered that as long as you are moving with a sense of purpose (passions, hobbies, errands, etc), it kills all of your contrivance and feelings of social interactions being forced.

You have to have a reason to be there besides romance. This shift in mental focus alone changes your whole entire frame from seducer to casual cool guy. And this shift in vibe alone allows you to avoid tripping women's b1tch shields.

Contrivance is the main reason why guys have a hard time in bars/clubs, and I guess even in kickball.

Purpose-> Intention -> Focus -> expression -> presence. This is how you create external reality.

First you have to be purposeful. And romance is not a masculine purpose. That's feminine. I don't care if your purpose is just running errands. You can't be a no-life seducer and be able to avoid contrivance (which leads to b1tch shields).

Next comes your intention. Your intention is to achieve your purpose. If your intentions are to seek women, you will come across as needy and contrived. You will carry around a desperate vibe that will repel instead of attract.

Because you are purposeful and have the right intentions, you are focused on the right things. You are not focused on how to seduce/impress women. You're letting women go, which increases your odds of attracting them by 10,000%.

Because you have purpose, are intent on executing that purpose, and focused on the right things, your expression is clear and transparent. You don't look like a guy with a false persona. You look relaxed, comfortable in your own skin, and even trustworthy to women. They instinctively pick up on your vibe and either seduce you or make it very easy for you to talk to them when you have a transparent vibe.

When you have no purpose, your expression is completely distorted. You could even look at yourself in the mirror and see your purposelessness. If you can see it yourself, you think women with million year old brains designed to detect value can't?

Now before anyone thinks this is pure theory and not real life experience, let me give you a real life example.

My purpose when going out is usually going to the gym/mma/yoga/fitness or even getting work done in downtown coffee shops or even near college campuses. That's my purpose. I always have to progress. So if romance doesn't happen, at least I am still moving forward, and not moving sideways like an aimless seducer. Continuous improvement is my ultimate purpose in life. I actually don't have a concrete and specific purpose like "I want to cure cancer." My purpose is continuous progress and I live completely in the moment. I allow my life and destiny to unfold. My job is to just get better every single day.

Because I have an over-arching purpose, my intention each day is to be productive. I'm at the coffee shop downtown trying to be productive. I'm at the gym trying to be productive. I'm at the yoga class trying to be productive. Women do not sense that they are on my radar- which makes me come across very safe for them. Ironically, the LESS you think about women, the more they feel comfortable to seduce you.

My focus is in alignment with my intentions and purpose. I have 100% laser focus. Women can see it in my eyes. I am completely undistracted. And because of this, they WANT to distract me. Women always throw you negs when you don't notice them. This is 100% fact. Any guy who was ever 100% focused on his purpose can attest to this.

When you look at women, they run away. But when you ignore them, they chase you. This truism is as old as civilization itself.

But you don't have to ignore them. In fact, trying to ignore them as an act of getting them to chase you does not work because it is contrived and you are still focusing on women. Even when you think you are sneaky with your games, women can sniff you out.

Instead, just shift your focus on being productive. When you are focused on the right things in life (progressing towards your purpose rather than seeking validation), you give off a completely transparent expression. Women are always suspicious of men.

A guy who is completely transparent has women seducing him left and right. And the best part is, he's not even focused on women.

This is the inner game of attracting women outside social circles. I rarely talk about this level because most guys are hellbent on purposely going out to seduce women.

I said several posts ago that it was my last post on seduction. THIS will be my last ever post on seduction. This is what I do everyday. I just run errands and run into women.

I get seduced by women because my presence is completely transparent. I don't have any ulterior motives. I legit show up to progress in life in every activity. This is the most masculine presence you can express to women.

P.S. When I DO go out to bars and clubs, my focus is on having FUN. I feel complete just relaxing because I spent all of my masculine energy during the week achieving my purpose. Women can sense this non-contrived vibe and are more likely to give me buying signals.

It sounds ridiculously simple, but the only difference between a guy running into 10,000 b1tch shields and a guy effortlessly running into women that vibes with him is a simple matter of focus and intention.

When you are focused on women, they can SMELL it. And it's not a pleasant smell.

P.P.S. When you go out on dates, forget the woman. Just focus on having the most fun possible. Go on the date for YOU. Self-amusement is a powerful attractor. It expresses all sorts of non-neediness and self-confidence.

Again, it comes down to focus. A simple shift in focus from her to YOU changes the entire dynamic of the date, and likely outcome. And even if the date doesn't work out, at least you enjoyed yourself.

Letting go of all contrivance should be your attitude in romance.
Yeh this is 100% right. It took my 35 yrs to really understand this lol
 

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I don't know if given the mating environment that you can call women 25+ who are unmarried AFC's.

Almost all the women I've met during my time as an adult were not married on their 25th birthday. The median age at first marriage now is around 28 for a woman. In my social circle, which is a combination of people with bachelor's and master's degrees, the wedding cycle occurred around 28-32. My circle isn't a representative sample. I've know women who eventually married the person they were with on their 25th birthday. Women who get a BA/BS degree or higher tend to marry even later than the median age for all women.

Very few women now marry their high school or college sweetheart. I know of one couple formed in my freshman year dorm that got married. Almost all the college relationships from my undergrad years (I graduated 15 years ago) dissipated before marriage. They mostly dissipated by the time the participants were 25.

The current mating environment is bad. There's a point that the quality of women on the market gets worse as aging happens, but I think that really kicks in by 30. 25-29 is ok.

There's also a difference between men and women. Men with no romantic success are incels. Incels get no sex and no relationships. Women with no romantic success are insols (involuntary solitude). Insols at least getting regular sex and a lot of attention from men. They just aren't getting commitment. Insols are more mainstream in the cultural narrative than incels. Insols usually have more female friends are more socially adept.
I think I also added 25+ with no serious relationship or marriage. They should AT LEAST be in a serious relationship heading to marriage by 25. If they still have not found that by 25 chances are they are defective. We can even push that out to 28 yrs old if that makes more sense to you. DEFINITELY by 28 or so.....if a chick hasn't found a guy by 28 then chances are very high its just her.
 

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Enjoy the decline. Pillage what you can. If you want a wife, discover time travel. You were born in the wrong place and time.
But I really want a kid bro. I want a little Pandora that I can mold into a good man. Or even a daughter that I can mold into a good woman. We can still save the West.....:lol:
 

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But I really want a kid bro. I want a little Pandora that I can mold into a good man. Or even a daughter that I can mold into a good woman. We can still save the West.....:lol:
Pandora mate, i hear you.

I had that chat or something similar with @lamath. I feel ambiguity and a sense of disassociation from the point of children. I disagree with you on Saving the West. I gave up on England and the UK ages ago.


We're biologically driven by procreation and survival but, I am aware after a decade of cold approach pickup, nothing is more dangerous than a child with western women. There's no quicker route to financial ruin.

Aaron Clarey is about the only trp guy i can tolerate. You can meet a woman who wants kids won't be a mother. Wants marriage and won't be a wife. High body count #donotwant. Its not on the menu.

If it comes good luck.
 
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Pandora mate, i hear you.

I had that chat or something similar with @lamath. I feel ambiguity and a sense of disassociation from the point of children. I disagree with you on Saving the West. I gave up on England and the UK ages ago.


We're biologically driven by procreation and survival but, I am aware after a decade of cold approach pickup, nothing is more dangerous than a child with western women. There's no quicker route to financial ruin.

Aaron Clarey is about the only trp guy i can tolerate. You can meet a woman who wants kids won't be a mother. Wants marriage and won't be a wife. High body count #donotwant. Its not on the menu.

If it comes good luck.
Felt like you before i had kids, now its different.

I think for men it does not feel as instinctual is mpre of a byproduct of getting laid.
 

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These girls are college educated/liberal and are all attractive even in there 30s. When we were all still in hs/college if they like a guy they would openly flirt with them and make there intentions clear. Then you have other women who in fact "out game" themselves out of decent relationships. They either expect to much from a guy or they dont know what they want from a guy. Or want a guy and play "mind games", the poblem is most decent men dont play games and walk away at the first sign. (except for ss).
There are physically attractive women in their 30s. The college educated/liberal 30 something attractive woman is most commonly found on Hinge and Bumble in larger cities. She has a app swipe queue longer than we as rational men can imagine. In pre-pandemic 2019, the average attractive college educated and liberal 32 year old woman had more options due to her swipe app queue than she did in 2008 if she was a 21 year old not using dating websites at that time. The typical college educated/liberal 30 something attractive woman turns down men as if she were still a hot 21 year old. The app swipe environment allows her to experience the magical ride of being a 21 year old hot commodity for a long time, even into her 40s. She can play games as much as she wants because she thinks she's still as in demand as she was at 21.

These women don't realize it but they would be better served if they got off apps completely. If they got off apps, they'd have to depend on a combination of factors. They would have to fight it out at the with younger women, competing to receive approaches. They would depend upon men at their gym/fitness classes/grocery store to approach them. Yes, they would have fewer options. Some would go completely ignored. However, the ones that aren't ignored would have better attitudes and the possibility of having longer relationships.

The big city, college educated/liberal 30 something attractive woman doesn't usually have much of a social circle. Around age 30, most social circles are comprised mostly of attached people in extended relationships, often time marriages. These social circles are rarely outright hostile to single and unattached people, but there's a subtle undertone that these social circles really don't want single people participating in them. Single people feel this and don't want to associate. Single women are more likely to break through this than single men, but social circles are generally less accomodating to singles after age 30. This is more true in transplant heavy bigger cities than smaller to midsize cities. This paragraph is a perfect lead in to the next quote.....

This is a phenomenon that only exists outside of social tribes.

Humans were meant to be in tribes and not exist as social nomads.

Most big cities are not built for tribal life.

Women outside of tribes are clueless and project everything.
In the 15 years since graduating college, I have lived in 2 of the 15 biggest U.S. metro areas. Both are in the Sun Belt region. I only mention the Sun Belt region because even for big cities, these cities are more transient than the big cities in the Northeast and Midwest, which have been established for hundreds of years. Almost all of these Sun Belt cities have had their big growth in recent decades, and don't have great historical roots. Many of the Sun Belt cities were absolutely nothing before the advent of cheap air conditioning.

In a large, rootless and anonymous metropolitan area, social circles are weaker than they are in more established areas. While it is possible to have a social circle in a large, transient, and rootless metropolitan area, it just isn't as common. Also, in the Sun Belt region, a lot of the 20s/30s populace transplanted there from some small town or some other region not close to the mega Sun Belt city in question. When social circles form as adults, they are also weaker because no one was associated with each other during their formative years. People who move frequently tend to have weaker social circles. People who move frequent tend to end up in big cities, and often in the big Sun Belt that have experienced a lot of the growth in recent decades.

How does this all affect the mating environment?

In combination with technological growth, it makes women perceive a need to be more reliant upon mating apps. Because men follow women, men will go where they think the women are and often flood the avenue with cocck. This partially explains why Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge all have bad ratios. The women who tend to be on these apps in their 20s/30s tend to be rootless people. They have moved either both in childhood and adulthood, and they generally have the weak social circles that I mentioned above. Due to having weak social circles and have a huge number of penis options, they generally don't have good social circles and treat men as disposable, sub-human entities. Almost all of the female app swipers after age 27 or so in big cities are transient people with weak social circles. Even in the Sun Belt, the women who grew up in that region and never left get married sooner. They may eventually get divorced at 35-40 and become single mom app swipers, but earlier in life, they tend to perma attached sooner.

Outside of the mating apps, the transient women 25+ don't tend to receive cold approaches as well. This is partially due to the poorer social skills I mentioned above, and even some of these women cold approached in real life are on apps and have a crazy long app queue and don't know how to process a real life approach. It's still better to meet any woman through some real life means than to meet them swiping and texting behind an electronic screen.

A lot of the bad trends we see do relate to a lack of tribal life.


I lost my mind about the times I pickup SJW or feminists after pulling. The girl may or may not identify as a feminists but her actions, behaviour, and attitude has been conditioned to act as such.
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I like this quote simply because it reminds of a college elective class I took in the mid-2000s. In my senior year, I had an elective on Gender Studies. Feminism was studied. What was most interesting to me was to see the progression of feminism. In 2004, I remember thinking that every U.S. born woman that was born in 1980 or later had more radical feminist than first wave feminist of the late 1950s, even if they didn't identify with the feminist label. Glad to see someone else put that into different words.

Enjoy the decline. Pillage what you can. If you want a wife, discover time travel. You were born in the wrong place and time.
Yes, "Enjoy the Decline" is an important mantra. To me, "Enjoy the Decline" means to not get married and put myself in position for a divorce that will affect me financially. I'm ok with medium to long term relationships (2-5 years) but won't put a ring on it or have a child with it. In this mating environment, an extended girlfriend of 2-5 years with no marriage and no children is the best possible outcome.
 

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Felt like you before i had kids, now its different.

I think for men it does not feel as instinctual is mpre of a byproduct of getting laid.
Similar to @Pandora, i have that part of me but, I agree with Cappy. As Aaron Clarey stated, ITS NOT ON THE MENU. I suppose its a fleeting biological urge once again its taken root.

@lamath mate, its always a pleasure. You be well.
 

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Similar to @Pandora, i have that part of me but, I agree with Cappy. As Aaron Clarey stated, ITS NOT ON THE MENU. I suppose its a fleeting biological urge once again its taken root.

@lamath mate, its always a pleasure. You be well.
Same my friend, hope things are well for you too
 
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