25 yr old + unmarried women are AFCs with no game

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This makes a lot of sense. Bro i didnt know that Suzanne Vencker had a blog! Thats amazing. I read her book the Flip Side of Feminism and I loved it. She gives me hope in women again lol
It is hopeful, but also almost dispiriting to read her blog, because how many other women/channels do you see with this message? it's a microscopic niche. It makes you realize how low your odds are of finding a wife material woman, especially one who is not just pretending to be. It would almost be better to conclude that it's hopeless than to live in a purgatory.

Oh well lol, her stuff is on point. You gotta stay strong.
 

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The main problem for women in today's society is conflicting priorities. They have been brainwashed to believe that they must focus on education and career advancement opportunities in their 20's. Of course, their 20's also happen to be their prime years for attracting and retaining a "quality" man. You can't effectively pursue both of those objectives at the same time.

In addition, college is usually a ruinous experience for women in and of itself. While in college, they are exposed to degenerate lifestyles centred on partying, excessive drinking and drug use on the one hand, and intense feminist anti-male propaganda on the other. This is a highly toxic environment that many women emerge from emotionally scarred for life.
 

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Nah man women can get relationship easily, not just sex
I think that's true, although they have to be choosy about which type of man they pick. It looks like about 70% of the guys here have the attitude "Hell no, I will never get into a relationship with a woman, I just want a bunch of sex partners". I've always thought most men had the attitude that they enjoyed dating around, but if they met the right girl they had no problem with getting into a relationship. Now I wonder.

I wonder if modern pornography has anything to do this? One of the problems with porn is that it conditions men to be able to see 10 different naked women with a click of a mouse, so they can have trouble responding to a real woman. It feeds into men's natural appreciation for variety and multiplies it x 1000.
 

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I think that's true, although they have to be choosy about which type of man they pick. It looks like about 70% of the guys here have the attitude "Hell no, I will never get into a relationship with a woman, I just want a bunch of sex partners". I've always thought most men had the attitude that they enjoyed dating around, but if they met the right girl they had no problem with getting into a relationship. Now I wonder.

I wonder if modern pornography has anything to do this? One of the problems with porn is that it conditions men to be able to see 10 different naked women with a click of a mouse, so they can have trouble responding to a real woman. It feeds into men's natural appreciation for variety and multiplies it x 1000.
I'd say that, and that most women aren't "wife material" anymore
 
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I'd say that, and that most women aren't "wife material" anymore
Well, a relationship doesn't necessarily mean marriage. But your point remains valid.
 

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- women around 23 year of their lives are at the peak of their physical attractiveness
- around 26-27 years old their game is the strongest (****-carousel experience kicks in and solidify it)
- they can easily lure average beta and lower beta when they are past 35y old as well (even with child)
- sexual revolution and various pregnancy protection actually 1)supported alpha males 2)supported females as both sexes have now greater control over when and with whom have children (obviously no one wants to have one with so-so option)

Social media boost it. Sperm vaults boost it even more for 6's and 7's ready to be single mothers because "all the good guys" (alphas) are taken ("gimme alpha male semen, I will raise him on my own* translated as *find obedient beta to raise alpha offspring together)

Most of the guys have not much to beat that/match that at this stage. However, it slowly gets turned around when men are 34-36 - at this age you can easily score former 9/10 being around 8/10 yourself as she is not more than 7+/10 at this point while you can maintain or raise your SMV by gaining assets and taking care of yourself.
 

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The women that get it right are the ones that are married.
I honestly believe that women are not built biologically to be the ones to be hunting the men. The ones who are married are in one of two places:

1) One person was desperate to keep the other, so they proposed.
2) The couple were equally inexperienced with dating, so they stayed with each other from a young age.

It has nothing to do with female game. There's a reason women remain unmarried. They're either unattractive in multiple aspects or a piece of 5hit with a worn-out vagina.
 

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- they can easily lure average beta and lower beta when they are past 35y old as well (even with child)
I agree with this. Which raises the question...what if you're a 40 to 55 alpha-ish male? Does this mean you're screwed unless you go for 29 and younger? You certainly don't want to be that "beta" 47 year old that got lured into dating a 35 year old for the wrong reasons. And before everyone says they either are or they know plenty of 50 year olds dating 26 year olds...I know. I know this is possible but its lower percentage and will eat up alot of your dating time landing an under 30 year old.

I've run the gamut as a 40+ dude (as a blue pill prior to my red pill awakening) dating 24 year olds all the way up to 52 year olds. If for arguments sake say 35 and over female is damaged goods. Where does that leave the late 40s red pill guys? Over 35 you're getting cucked or "lured" due to hypergamy and under 35 your chances, while still possible, decrease.

And I won't even go into dating single 45+ women. No matter how old you are as a man...they generally have to be hit it and quit it girls. Too bat sh1t crazy.
 
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I believe that knowledge itself makes men less interested into investing in women generally, we can bullsh1t each other as much as we want but men (alpha-beta-gamma-whatever) doesnt like when someone defiled his woman before him...its not insecurity, its territory just like no ones buy used cars if he can afford a new one.

Now women nowadays are usually heavyer than they should, more spoiled and arrogant, used to never been told NO, too many tatoos and totally clueless about femininity and caring skills...the list goes on.

Men on the other side are forced to pass tiring and humiliating ordeals wheter its planning each and every line to avoid being unmatched to drive in the traffic and spend money in stressful expensive place simply because its where young women are and demand to be met.

At some point for most men the juice is not worth the squeeze and once someone mentally accept that not getting laid and being single takes away a lot of stress and does define you as a man, many go for it...usually after their 30s.

No need to talk about laws and culture, divorze and policies cause we all know about it.

The problem is that women are a liability for most of men, a further stress in an already stressful society.

You dont see polish or latvian men going mgtow for a reason.
 

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Now women nowadays are usually heavyer than they should, more spoiled and arrogant, used to never been told NO, too many tatoos and totally clueless about femininity and caring skills...the list goes on.

Men on the other side are forced to pass tiring and humiliating ordeals wheter its planning each and every line to avoid being unmatched to drive in the traffic and spend money in stressful expensive place simply because its where young women are and demand to be met.

At some point for most men the juice is not worth the squeeze and once someone mentally accept that not getting laid and being single takes away a lot of stress and does define you as a man, many go for it...usually after their 30s.

No need to talk about laws and culture, divorze and policies cause we all know about it.

The problem is that women are a liability for most of men, a further stress in an already stressful society.

You dont see polish or latvian men going mgtow for a reason.
For every square nanometer you can find on womens' side of the coin, you will find the equivalent on the mens' side. For every delusional, entitled, callous woman there is an equivalent man who has no selfrespect and no spine. Men who don't tolerate bad behavior, who don't feed womens' egos with entertainment, validation and special treatment, and who put their own lives first rather than pvssy - those are the men who women actually respect, and because of that, who they really want and deep down wish men were.

That is the tragedy of feminism's neutering of males. They are teaching men how to be men that women don't respect, which makes a bad situation worse as men who are not Chad already need to maximize what they can in order to be able to be arousing to women. Respecting yourself in mentality and lifestyle is the one fundamental thing men need for that. That's why I don't really feel any aggressive feelings toward feminists. They cannot win, because the more they neuter men of their masculinity and selfrespect, the less women will be satisfied with men. They will make themselves lose.
 
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For every square nanometer you can find on womens' side of the coin, you will find the equivalent on the mens' side. For every delusional, entitled, callous woman there is an equivalent man who has no selfrespect and no spine. Men who don't tolerate bad behavior, who don't feed womens' egos with entertainment, validation and special treatment, and who put their own lives first rather than pvssy - those are the men who women actually respect, and because of that, who they really want and deep down wish men were.

That is the tragedy of feminism's neutering of males. They are teaching men how to be men that women don't respect, which makes a bad situation worse as men who are not Chad already need to maximize what they can in order to be able to be arousing to women. Respecting yourself in mentality and lifestyle is the one fundamental thing men need for that. That's why I don't really feel any aggressive feelings toward feminists. They cannot win, because the more they neuter men of their masculinity and selfrespect, the less women will be satisfied with men. They will make themselves lose.
I undestand what you mean but I dont share the belief in the outcome.

A bomber also makes himself to lose once he explodes yet collaterals are all around and it can be everyone even those who were having drinks and wanted nothing to do with him.
 

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I undestand what you mean but I dont share the belief in the outcome.

A bomber also makes himself to lose once he explodes yet collaterals are all around and it can be everyone even those who were having drinks and wanted nothing to do with him.
It's an exciting time man, I can't wait to see the developments and the end game. It's like reading or watching a good fiction.
 

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It's an exciting time man, I can't wait to see the developments and the end game. It's like reading or watching a good fiction.
Thats for sure, it will definitely be top entertainment 10 years from now.

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If you are 25+ and you are not married and not in a serious relationship then the problem is you ( as a woman). Usually these women just don't get good dating advice. I used to have female friends that i would give dating advice to. I have a little sister in her early 20s. They all called me with the most retarded ideas about what they should be doing. The advice women get from dating magazines is "Be a challenge". Some advice says " dont text back too quickly". This is all ridiculous advice. Women are even clueless about what will keep a guy. This is why many put out quickly not realizing that they are shooting themselves in the foot.

We have this idea that women are socially more advanced than men when it comes to dating. This is absolutely false. They come off as more advanced because they have sexual bargaining power. This is their only trump card. Most post 25+ have no game. They are clueless. This is why they are single and cant figure out why. I feel sorry for them because many of them actually mean well. Its just that they dont know what works to keep a man. No one teaches them. They think that putting out quickly or not texting back or playing hard to get keeps a guy.

The women that get it right are the ones that are married. These woman have true "game". These women are functional reasonable humans and are married early. They usually come from small town America and married an average dude. They didnt play too many games. They got married in their very early twenties and moved on with their lives. Getting that wedding ring from a guy that is stable and wants to provide for you is the definition of a female Don Juan. What we are seeing now is girls that are left over. The AFC of women is what is left over. These are girls that cant spot, attract (non sexually) and keep a guy to save their life. I asked one of my female relatives that is very attractive and single why she passed up good guys. She said "because they are boring". Case closed. That is a female AFC. No game. So she wont reach her goal of wife and kids.

Now a caveat to this is ugly girls. They actually have it rough. This only applies to average to hot chicks.
Pandora mate, I concur but, the 90s sex and the city, the sandbag skank perpetuate being a tramp, the edu system pedaling feminism, edu pushing degrees in lesbianism dance therapy and a minor in sock puppetry. This level of phaggotry is unworldly. The students debt is estimated into the trillions and its majority is by women.

Women are putting it off. Alexander Grace puy up a vblog on tinder.

Basically,women use it to slut out and for boredom. Women are incapable of taking responsibility.They will blame men not wanting a ltr. They will still pursue those men. They will be more inclined to make accusations as smv craters.


Again best yrsor do not want.
 

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I honestly believe that women are not built biologically to be the ones to be hunting the men. The ones who are married are in one of two places:

1) One person was desperate to keep the other, so they proposed.
2) The couple were equally inexperienced with dating, so they stayed with each other from a young age.

It has nothing to do with female game. There's a reason women remain unmarried. They're either unattractive in multiple aspects or a piece of 5hit with a worn-out vagina.
Worn out vag lol I died lad.
 

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I have 2 older sisters and have been around them and there friends for almost my whole life. Yes women for the most part want a guy that is like them. If there honest and looking for a decent relationship that's what they want in a guy All of there friends are happily married. These girls are college educated/liberal and are all attractive even in there 30s. When we were all still in hs/college if they like a guy they would openly flirt with them and make there intentions clear. Then you have other women who in fact "out game" themselves out of decent relationships. They either expect to much from a guy or they dont know what they want from a guy. Or want a guy and play "mind games", the poblem is most decent men dont play games and walk away at the first sign. (except for ss).
 

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I have 2 older sisters and have been around them and there friends for almost my whole life. Yes women for the most part want a guy that is like them. If there honest and looking for a decent relationship that's what they want in a guy All of there friends are happily married. These girls are college educated/liberal and are all attractive even in there 30s. When we were all still in hs/college if they like a guy they would openly flirt with them and make there intentions clear. Then you have other women who in fact "out game" themselves out of decent relationships. They either expect to much from a guy or they dont know what they want from a guy. Or want a guy and play "mind games", the poblem is most decent men dont play games and walk away at the first sign. (except for ss).
Exactly
 

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I'd say that, and that most women aren't "wife material" anymore
Watch gene warfare series and truth on sex podcast by stefan molyneux.

Its telling. There's hyper sexuality and promiscuity pedaled in society. Its because it feeds single mother victimhood aka the welfare state. Its women reliant on daddy government. Women vote large government for security. There's nothing but parachute in poor lifestyle choices. No consequences for promiscuity. Daddy government and beta thirst will foot the bill.

There's a coming wave of conservatism but its short lived. Its better than cuck culture but men returning to the plantation is retarded.
 
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