Luthor Rex
Master Don Juan
What's that? *sniff* *sniff*
Is that BPD I smell cooking?
hmm...
Is that BPD I smell cooking?
hmm...
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Yea, what he said.jophil28 said:Competition is a fact of life. However if they turn out to be bad prospects we will toss 'em back at ya.![]()
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Maybe she is just "finding herself" after all those years of "patriachal oppression" at the hands of the OP ....Or maybe she is just what Danger said.Danger said:Nah, doesn't sound anything like a BPD. Just a normal run-of-the-mill entitled cougar freshly hatched from her cocoon.
That "switch" has been the subject of a few discussions here from time to time.imaluvnit said:Hey that's funny, That's the name in my phone for XXX Wife, AKA the Iceberg!!!! Man it's amazing she must have this switch in her head she can just turn off and never act like I even existed!!! wow it hurts but I guess time will take care of that.
You clearly built a monster, dude.imaluvnit said:Here go's, a little back history. She has always dealt with depression, on and off meds for the last 24 yrs. In the last 2 years she had lost 50+ lbs, Now how she did it, I must mention that she always said that I was unsupportive. Here go's, we took 4 cycling/spin classes a week which 3 of them I teach, I also do all the cooking so I make everything super low fat high in protein and in low carbs, I also taught her how to workout with weights and she also did weight watchers. Ok I can here it now!!!! I built a monster. .
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Uggh. The more I read, the worse it gets!imaluvnit said:Andy
but I find it hard to do as I have spent so many years supporting her and my family for all those years. I always put her and my sons first and my needs came second. I'm trying to act like i'm not mad but is very hard to do, I feel like a disposable lighter, she used me up and just tossed me away like some trash.
imaluvnit said:Hidden Hand
thank's for your comments, I know it all to be true, but it is hard to get past feeling like a disposable lighter that has been all used up and just thrown away. I'm trying to get over being angry I hope it fades here in the near future. I am ready to go hunt down some younger stuff though, it just seems like the right thing to do, I have already gone out with 30 yr old girl from el salvador that I work with. don't know how long it will last but I'm having fun in the mean time.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
No honey, women your age want women 5-10 years younger. I'm 10 years older than you, and I want women no less than 30.speakeasy said:While I understand why older guys want to date younger women, out of selfish interest, I don't like the idea. Because it just makes more competition for women in my age range. Guys my age want women around my age, guys that are older want women in my age, so that just makes these women in this age group think they are even more valuable.
Here ^^^imaluvnit said:...I find it hard to do as I have spent so many years supporting her and my family for all those years. I always put her and my sons first and my needs came second.
OOPS! That should have been no OLDER than 30.MatureDJ said:No honey, women your age want women 5-10 years younger. I'm 10 years older than you, and I want women no less than 30.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.