sodbuster
Master Don Juan
You spent 24 years getting an education in what you don't want in a woman. Now spend some time to figure out what you DO want,read here and learn how to get it.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Nothing wrong with putting your kids first. A man takes care of his kids.imaluvnit said:Andy
Thank's for letting me know there is hope, But right at this moment it all feels impossible for me to get a normal life everyone tells me it is time for myself, but I find it hard to do as I have spent so many years supporting her and my family for all those years. I always put her and my sons first and my needs came second. I'm trying to act like i'm not mad but is very hard to do, I feel like a disposable lighter, she used me up and just tossed me away like some trash. I'm taking it day by day, what a rollercoaster ride, thank's again.
Looked it up and it doesn't have very good reviews on Amazon, but don't go by those this time around. Glad I dug a little deeper, the ones complaining were the women, so that tells me he did something rightsodbuster said:Mine was only 14 years ad cost 200k. Get her off life ins,bank accounts, everything. Hide some money-overpay for groceries and get the cash back. Read Screw the "female dog" at palladin press-can't think of the author. Be glad she just moved out,could have been worse.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
You are decribing some women's "codependent" style of relating to men who are needy or broken.imaluvnit said:... I'm still nice but the biggest change for me has been the fact the more I act like I need fixing the more attractive I become to them, they seem to want to try and fix guy's or try to change them and the more I don't care the harder they try, I know it's crazy but I'm going to stay with that as long as it continues to work. I don't understand it but i guess I'm not meant to, it is what it is and I love it.
Be wary of women who work with the young, the weak, the disadvantaged, the ill and the damaged. Those women spend at least 8 hours each working with students, patients or 'clients' who all have less power and status that she does. She is dominant.imaluvnit said:My X wife that just left me was a high school administrator, she had to deal with lots of kids everyday and when she would come, she was always in the habit of talking to me like I was one of her students.
Women are highly labile and are open to influence by their peers. They absorb and become their surroundings. I think that it is part of their need to agree with their peers to find a sense of acceptance and community.imaluvnit said:Damn that's awesome you nailed it dude, Thats the s#@t I had to put up with for years. Previous to working with High school kids, my X wife worked with autistic kids, I now can see where the dominant and entitled attitude comes from, I guess I should have been more observant. I'm still learning and luvn'it.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
I'm not buying it.imaluvnit said:Damn that's awesome you nailed it dude, Thats the s#@t I had to put up with for years. Previous to working with High school kids, my X wife worked with autistic kids, I now can see where the dominant and entitled attitude comes from, I guess I should have been more observant. I'm still learning and luvn'it.
This is a great point.Mr. Me said:>>
I want you to know this: whenever you come across one of these things they say or do that don't make sense to you, understand that the reason it doesn't make sense is because you've been served up bullshyte. A smokescreen to hide the truth. And bullshyte, by definition, doesn't make sense...
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Consideration for others is a noble trait - its shows good character. However habitually placing other's needs and wants ahead of your own is NOT healthy and it is always self defeating in the long run...imaluvnit said:. I'm now just trying to learn how to do things for ME without automatically considering someone else, it's a hard habit to break.
Hell I didn't have to be married to make that mistake. I thought it was obvious that the best way to make a relationship work was reciprocal altruism and that everyone else saw things that way too.jophil28 said:They assume that marriage is a simple equation...an unspoken contract with a like-minded partner..
"IF I do whatever she wants me to do and provide for her wants and wishes then she will reciprocate when the time comes and be open to MY needs. "
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.