This has happened to me a few times recently and I already made a post about it with a different girl it happened to 2 weeks ago. I've had more sex in the past year than any other year previously, so maybe I'm just going for high-risk high reward strategies that don't work on some women. I have also noticed when I have abundance and am already fvcking 1-2 other women this doesn't happen, but if I'm coming off a break from women, the first time I try to have sex with a new girl this seems more likely to occur.
The most recent experience I had was a date last night with this girl I met off Hinge, probably an 8. We have drinks at a nice ****tail bar and the whole date goes pretty well. After 1 drink she agrees to come over to my place. We watch TV and cuddle etc and I do my usual process etc. I even say early on "we're not going to have sex" as we start getting more and more intimate before she can even say it. She puts up LMR at every step but eventually I get her completely naked and we're escalating more and more. I do the "prod" technique where I poke her ***** with my **** and tease her endlessly with dirty talk and she's really into it. I actually made her *** from fingering/rubbing her ****. At one point I feel like I could have just slipped it in but I didn't. I find when I make a break for a condom it flips a switch in their head and they suddenly decide not to have sex.
I know this sort of behavior can simply be a test. She would say "no" but in that giggly tone, so I responded by completely taking control of her and teasing her more and more. She also would straight up say she either didn't want to have sex yet or said she wasn't sure. I joked and said "is the queen in your head disapproving of the slutty princess' behavior?" which she laughed about in agreement. I did more dirty talk and de-escalation then re-escalation and I really think I was smooth about it all but it just feels weird as **** to force yourself on them and even if you manage to pull it off it's just not worth the potential rape charge even if they enjoy it. These young women are so indoctrinated by leftism that they can later decide something was rape even if they enjoyed it in the moment.
Does anyone else experience this and is it perhaps better with first dates to just keep it light and purposely NOT go for it and let the sexual tension build and then just end it prematurely and call it a night? I do the same thing with other women and they are just DOWN and put up zero LMR so it baffles me when it happens.
I don't have any advice on the matter, but if a girl was naked, all over me and my hands were inside her and she still didn't allow things to go further I would think she's a nut. You're 99% there and she bails out? That's a tease in my mind and I would be frustrated as hell personally
I don't have any advice on the matter, but if a girl was naked, all over me and my hands were inside her and she still didn't allow things to go further I would think she's a nut. You're 99% there and she bails out? That's a tease in my mind and I would be frustrated as hell personally
I have not, it's the least of my concern but I still view these sort of experiences as something worth inspection so I can learn from them.
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This has happened to me a few times recently and I already made a post about it with a different girl it happened to 2 weeks ago. I've had more sex in the past year than any other year previously, so maybe I'm just going for high-risk high reward strategies that don't work on some women. I have also noticed when I have abundance and am already fvcking 1-2 other women this doesn't happen, but if I'm coming off a break from women, the first time I try to have sex with a new girl this seems more likely to occur.
The most recent experience I had was a date last night with this girl I met off Hinge, probably an 8. We have drinks at a nice ****tail bar and the whole date goes pretty well. After 1 drink she agrees to come over to my place. We watch TV and cuddle etc and I do my usual process etc. I even say early on "we're not going to have sex" as we start getting more and more intimate before she can even say it. She puts up LMR at every step but eventually I get her completely naked and we're escalating more and more. I do the "prod" technique where I poke her ***** with my **** and tease her endlessly with dirty talk and she's really into it. I actually made her *** from fingering/rubbing her ****. At one point I feel like I could have just slipped it in but I didn't. I find when I make a break for a condom it flips a switch in their head and they suddenly decide not to have sex.
I know this sort of behavior can simply be a test. She would say "no" but in that giggly tone, so I responded by completely taking control of her and teasing her more and more. She also would straight up say she either didn't want to have sex yet or said she wasn't sure. I joked and said "is the queen in your head disapproving of the slutty princess' behavior?" which she laughed about in agreement. I did more dirty talk and de-escalation then re-escalation and I really think I was smooth about it all but it just feels weird as **** to force yourself on them and even if you manage to pull it off it's just not worth the potential rape charge even if they enjoy it. These young women are so indoctrinated by leftism that they can later decide something was rape even if they enjoyed it in the moment.
Does anyone else experience this and is it perhaps better with first dates to just keep it light and purposely NOT go for it and let the sexual tension build and then just end it prematurely and call it a night? I do the same thing with other women and they are just DOWN and put up zero LMR so it baffles me when it happens.
I've found in these situations the woman has either decided they aren't interested in things progressing to that level or they need to be more comfortable with you.
In cases where we have gotten to some stage of clothes off without me banging them, my rate of seeing them again is 0%.
I made a thread for guys like you and situations like this. I def recommend checking it out.
It really sounds like you read the girl wrong man.. and honestly, I've spoken to many chicks and stuff like this is like a nightmare story for them.. Guaranteed she will never talk to you again and this will go in as a page of the worst dates shes ever been on. Alot of young girls are just naive and don't want to say no or put up a fight because they have no idea if you're going to attack them or something.. so they foolishly go along with it but know they don't want to and are not turned on..
In the future don't be such a horndog man. A lot of women need to be eased into sexual stuff. you gotta learn how to set the tone, set the mood, then start slowly and do proper foreplay. Some of us guys don't have this issue with women but its because we exude alot of sexual energy/and theres alot of sexual energy within the whole interaction leading up to taking her home.
I made a thread for guys like you and situations like this. I def recommend checking it out.
It really sounds like you read the girl wrong man.. and honestly, I've spoken to many chicks and stuff like this is like a nightmare story for them.. Guaranteed she will never talk to you again and this will go in as a page of the worst dates shes ever been on. Alot of young girls are just naive and don't want to say no or put up a fight because they have no idea if you're going to attack them or something.. so they foolishly go along with it but know they don't want to and are not turned on..
In the future don't be such a horndog man. A lot of women need to be eased into sexual stuff. you gotta learn how to set the tone, set the mood, then start slowly and do proper foreplay. Some of us guys don't have this issue with women but its because we exude alot of sexual energy/and theres alot of sexual energy within the whole interaction leading up to taking her home.
Remember that the sort of situations I described in the OP are pretty rare. Normally when a new girl that likes me she will put up zero LMR. So, if a girl puts up any LMR than I should probably interpret that as such and back off. I still find this notion alarming that a woman will blow me and let me finger the **** out of them but are only doing it reluctantly. The girl in the OP wasn't that young btw she was 26.
Remember that the sort of situations I described in the OP are pretty rare. Normally when a new girl that likes me she will put up zero LMR. So, if a girl puts up any LMR than I should probably interpret that as such and back off. I still find this notion alarming that a woman will blow me and let me finger the **** out of them but are only doing it reluctantly. The girl in the OP wasn't that young btw she was 26.
Yeah these aren't common for me either. Its a very particular situation.. but you should still be able to read her better but i think you also musta rushed into things a bit. I think she wanted to spend time and like warm up to you more.. like flirt and tease, maybe have some drinks, put on some music in the background and jus like ease into it. Maybe some sexual talks and fantasy talk..
Here's the thread. I hope it helps in some way.. We never know when we expect girls to not just be DTF off bat, but theres always a chance you'll run into one here and there.. and its best to know how to deal with it
I think this is an important topic because alot of you guys need to know this.. Especially because I hear it from women all the time.. They'll meet a guy, and they'll like you (yeah you're not so ugly after all yippee), they vibe with you for the most part (yayu have a personality...
Remember that the sort of situations I described in the OP are pretty rare. Normally when a new girl that likes me she will put up zero LMR. So, if a girl puts up any LMR than I should probably interpret that as such and back off. I still find this notion alarming that a woman will blow me and let me finger the **** out of them but are only doing it reluctantly. The girl in the OP wasn't that young btw she was 26.
I have also noticed when I have abundance and am already fvcking 1-2 other women this doesn't happen, but if I'm coming off a break from women, the first time I try to have sex with a new girl this seems more likely to occur.
I genuinely cannot remember a single girl in the couple years year that has declined my invitation to come back to my place after a first date, not to mention the ones that come straight over (a couple women even invited me straight to their home to meet for the first time). So, their behavior is largely indistinguishable to me.
