penkitten
Master Don Juan
no i caught it with a condom.Thai Foon said:
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
11 warning signs that she may have herpes.
- Thread starter MDgood
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
MDgood
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penkitten, thanks for the honesty... seriously... you've helped a lot of people with that comment.penkitten said:
penkitten
Master Don Juan
i was more of an advocate speaking out about it, a few years ago when i caught it , and there are some threads in health and fitness that are all merged together. i have had it for a little over 5 years.MDgood said:
most people start a thread when they see a little bump on them that turns out to be nothing.
when i got it, i was so sick, that i honestly thought i had some severe flu, until the outbreak came, and then immediately i went to the std clinic.
the outbreak did not start off by itching, it was massive hard bumps that ached so bad under the skin.
i thought i was dying...
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
oakraiderz2
Master Don Juan
Hmmm...so im assuming all bumbs that are down there are herpes? Damn...
I'm Joe Dirt
Master Don Juan
Genital herpes may be caused by either HSV 1 or HSV 2. Meaning if you get cold sores on your mouth and you go down on a chick, she will get genital herpes and it will be HSV-1. It works the other way too, if she blows you and she has cold sores on her mouth (which many if not most people do) you can get sores down there.
From some STD research I've done (as I have cold sore outbreaks on my mouth and I was worried about spreading it) it seems that if you get HSV-1 cold sores on your mouth you may be much more resistant, if not immune, to HSV-2 which causes genital herpes, and pretty much 100% immunte to genital herpes caused by HSV-1 (which represents only a small percentage of genital herpes in the USA but nearly half if not more than half of genital herpes in the UK).
This is because you can only get infected with a certain strain once, and it is very rare for a strain you already have to infect another part of the body (very rare, though not unheard of).
Still, its not a good idea to do anyone dirty. And I am not a doctor so feel free to verify this information elsewhere.
From some STD research I've done (as I have cold sore outbreaks on my mouth and I was worried about spreading it) it seems that if you get HSV-1 cold sores on your mouth you may be much more resistant, if not immune, to HSV-2 which causes genital herpes, and pretty much 100% immunte to genital herpes caused by HSV-1 (which represents only a small percentage of genital herpes in the USA but nearly half if not more than half of genital herpes in the UK).
This is because you can only get infected with a certain strain once, and it is very rare for a strain you already have to infect another part of the body (very rare, though not unheard of).
It seems like you would be far less prone.
Still, its not a good idea to do anyone dirty. And I am not a doctor so feel free to verify this information elsewhere.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
i am a womandot said:
and no you can not always see the signs
if she caught herpes yesterday, she may not show signs for two weeks.
some say they never showed signs...
therefore professionals say you do not have to have a cold sore present to pass the herpes virus.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
no, some can be ingrown hair or whatever.oakraiderz2 said:
some could be warts (just as bad)
just be weary...be on the lookout for anything you dont like.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
the initial outbreak just lets you know when you caught the herpes and is kinda like chicken pox.
after that you can have break outs due to your health stress and what you eat.
think of it like chicken pox (same family and closest thing i can compare)
you catch it and dont know you have it and are contagious.
in one to two weeks, you have inflamed lymph nodes and a fever and hard bumps that are on your body coming out making these big pimple things that are filled with puss, if they pop they can spread to create more.
once they dry up ...
due to health conditions, stress and diet, it can reoccur just like chicken pox can lead to shingle outbreaks.
the only difference is..
chicken pox stops being contagious when you break out, where as herpes is the gift that keeps giving forever.
i honestly do not believe people who say they never knew, i think they lie.
but i can not prove it so i keep my mouth shut, however because so many say they did not have signs of it and their partners get it anyhow... they tell you that you can get it without an outbreak (coldsores) present.
so many people have not passed theirs to their loved ones because they do not have skin contact during an outbreak. seems to work for them..
BE WEARY OF EVERYONE WITH OR WITHOUT A COLDSORE ANYHOW.
after that you can have break outs due to your health stress and what you eat.
think of it like chicken pox (same family and closest thing i can compare)
you catch it and dont know you have it and are contagious.
in one to two weeks, you have inflamed lymph nodes and a fever and hard bumps that are on your body coming out making these big pimple things that are filled with puss, if they pop they can spread to create more.
once they dry up ...
due to health conditions, stress and diet, it can reoccur just like chicken pox can lead to shingle outbreaks.
the only difference is..
chicken pox stops being contagious when you break out, where as herpes is the gift that keeps giving forever.
i honestly do not believe people who say they never knew, i think they lie.
but i can not prove it so i keep my mouth shut, however because so many say they did not have signs of it and their partners get it anyhow... they tell you that you can get it without an outbreak (coldsores) present.
so many people have not passed theirs to their loved ones because they do not have skin contact during an outbreak. seems to work for them..
BE WEARY OF EVERYONE WITH OR WITHOUT A COLDSORE ANYHOW.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Goddamn you people need some critical thinking and statistics classes. I swear you just make numbers up or have the right numbers while ignoring the rest.
Just making a number up... say there's a 5% failure rate of condoms. That's for EVERY BLOODY FREAKIN MORON USING THEM. If you're stupid, that failure rate is higher. If you're smart, that rate is lower. If you have sex only sober it's different. So that pretty much means all these rates that people probably just make up anyway don't even mean crap. Saying a statistic and leaving out how that statistic came about and what information it was based on you might as well just say "i like monkeys" because that's just as useful information.
"your chance is 50% plus or minus 40%" is useless!!
Just making a number up... say there's a 5% failure rate of condoms. That's for EVERY BLOODY FREAKIN MORON USING THEM. If you're stupid, that failure rate is higher. If you're smart, that rate is lower. If you have sex only sober it's different. So that pretty much means all these rates that people probably just make up anyway don't even mean crap. Saying a statistic and leaving out how that statistic came about and what information it was based on you might as well just say "i like monkeys" because that's just as useful information.
"your chance is 50% plus or minus 40%" is useless!!
penkitten
Master Don Juan
thats what i am trying to get at dot...dot said:
you can never read a book by its cover.
always wear a condom
always be on the look at for some one you are dating to not be feeling well, or for something that looks off.
oakraiderz2
Master Don Juan
hmmm...some might be ingrown hairs. i have a single bump, i dont think its herpes cause it doesnt look like it would be.penkitten said:
penkitten
Master Don Juan
do you have a fever?oakraiderz2 said:
do you have swollen lymph nodes?
did the bump begin as a hard knot under the skin, that rose up, and now looks like a single chicken pox?
does is ache in horrible pain?
if you answered no to all of those, i bet it is just an ingrown hair or boil.
which every one gets at one point or another.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
My friend dated a girl with it for a while. They had safe sex and he was fine.
It isn't the end of the world, but it does make sleeping around a tough thing to do I'm sure. If I had it I wouldn't want to spread it, and **** like this would keep me from having ONS because I wouldn't want to spread it.
This is why aspiring to be the worlds best PUA isn't without potential consequences. I no longer want to bang every girl out there, because I am in a great LTR (I still like looking alot), but everyone should remember the consequences.
Sometimes I am surprised there isn't a little Ricky running around out there.
It isn't the end of the world, but it does make sleeping around a tough thing to do I'm sure. If I had it I wouldn't want to spread it, and **** like this would keep me from having ONS because I wouldn't want to spread it.
This is why aspiring to be the worlds best PUA isn't without potential consequences. I no longer want to bang every girl out there, because I am in a great LTR (I still like looking alot), but everyone should remember the consequences.
Sometimes I am surprised there isn't a little Ricky running around out there.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
ever see a valtrex commercial?dot said:
they say in the commercial that 70 % of people say they caught it from a partner who showed no signs of having herpes.
i tend to think a lot of people lie and that they did know they had it before, but they lied to save face... and i tend to think that a lot of people catch it and then spread it before they have their first out break and do it unknowingly...
regardless, that is why they say you can catch it even if there are no outbreaks present (cold sores)
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.