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‘Swipe left if you’re under 6ft’: Why are we so obsessed with height?

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Many women on dating apps claim they’re exclusively interested in men over 6ft tall. When did our expectations get so lofty?


As any straight woman will tell you, it’s not unusual to see some version of “6’1”, if it matters” in men’s dating app bios. The phrase has become something of a cliché, with offenders often ridiculed on social media for being so prickly about their height. But in fairness, these kinds of bios – while gratingly passive-aggressive in tone – are responding to an undoubtedly real phenomenon where growing numbers of women are seeking men of above average height.

One viral graph, attributed to Bumble, suggests that of all the women who use height filters on the app, 60 per cent are seeking a man over 6’0”, with only 15 per cent open to dating men shorter than 5’8”. While some have cast doubt on whether this graph was ever actually published by Bumble, a former Bumble product manager confirmed to the Wall Street Journal in 2022 that the majority of women on the platform do “tend to set a floor of 6 feet for men”. Anecdotally, some men have reported accruing more matches on dating apps after lying about their height and broaching the 6’0” threshold. “It’s common to see girls on Hinge choose the ‘biggest fear’ prompt and put ‘men under 6’0” as their answer,” says 22-year-old Connor, who is 5’9”. He adds that he believes some girls “definitely wouldn’t” be interested in him on account of his height alone. “It’s a little disheartening, but I’m mature enough to know that everyone has their own idea of what’s ‘attractive’.”

21-year-old Tom, who also stands at 5’9”, has had a similar experience. He says that the issue of height comes up “all the time” on dating apps like Hinge. “Profiles say things like ‘you should leave a comment if: you’re over 6ft’,” he says. “I know people have their preferences, but it’s almost every other profile.” He adds that he’s had dates express disappointment about his height to his face before.

This all chimes with 28-year-old Kyle, who is 5’8½” (“I’m quite specific, because if I said I was 5’8” I’d be downplaying it, but saying I’m 5’9” feels like I’m doing the classic thing of rounding it up”). He’s often suspected that many women on dating apps have set their filters to only show them profiles from taller men. “It’s kind of bizarre that you can choose to filter out profiles based on physical things,” he says.

Short men have long been regarded as less ‘desirable’ than tall men, according to multiple studies which found that women generally prefer a sizable height difference between themselves and their male partners. It’s worth acknowledging too that it’s unsurprising that women largely prefer taller partners, given that we’ve been socialised to associate being ‘small’ with femininity and desirability, while the patriarchy has insisted that the man’s role in a relationship (and society) is to be the ‘protector’ and physically larger. But neither Tom, Connor nor Kyle are even short. They’re perfectly average: according to NHS data, the average height of a UK man is 5’9”.

There’s often a gap between people’s self-reported preferences and their actual desires. Or, in other words, there’s a difference between what people say they want on dating apps and what really attracts them in real life. “Dating apps encourage trait-based decisions: users rely on profile details and photos, making choices based on abstract concepts. By contrast, offline attraction is holistic and dynamic, involving nonverbal cues, synchrony, and how someone makes you feel,” Dr Jackson explains.

“In real life, we’re drawn to things like how someone moves, how they listen or make us laugh, their energy, presence, and charisma,” he continues. “These are what we call ‘affective cues’ – these cues play a big role in forming real-world attraction, but they’re almost entirely absent online, where we judge people from a few photos. In person, we also tend to become more forgiving and open once we’ve formed a sense of someone’s warmth, humour, or kindness.” He adds that research shows physical appearance matters less and less over time in ongoing relationships, once deeper emotional bonds have begun to form.

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Not hard to figure out, tall women aren't as desired as medium height or short women, so they are disproportionately represented on the apps, and they are on there to 1) hopefully find a tall dude who doesn't mind a tall chick and 2) take it out on dudes in general bc they're frustrated

If you're a shorter dude, go for latinas since they tend to be shorties themselves.
 

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I don’t remember height being talked about THAT much say pre-2010.

Height always mattered, but I don’t recall women being that hung up on a specific height e.g. >=6’ back in the day.
High Score/Alpha Widow theory in action. Thanks apps
 

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I think a lot of women feel more safe/secure if their partner is taller than them.

Height should be a nice to have, not a prerequisite. It’s no different to a guy saying he will only date a woman with certain size breasts. It’s a very narrow view of what someone has to offer.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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"We" aren't obsessed with height, any more than "we" are fixated on subjects like The Great Replacement Theory, or exactly how many Louisianans The Axe Man Of New Orleans sent to that great jambalya bowl in the sky

Such topics are only foremost in the thoughts of the most vapid sliver of our species
 

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I quit worrying about that schitt a long time ago. It doesn't matter, find one that doesn't have that requirement. Don't take what they say so serious. That's the key to enjoying them even more. They dream up all sorts of rules which they break all the time for the right guy.

Its funny the guy that preaches the loudest about women being under 25, hot, no kids, no divorces, and never penetrated is getting bent over a silly height requirement. For fuhk sakes. Look at yourself. Who has more ridiculous standards....them or you?
 

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Its funny the guy that preaches the loudest about women being under 25, hot, no kids, no divorces, and never penetrated is getting bent over a silly height requirement. For fuhk sakes. Look at yourself. Who has more ridiculous standards....them or you?
Whoa whoa.

I never said under 25, I said under 30. I’ve never said never penetrated. Penetrated Is OK, just the respectable amount that the man would be OK bringing home to family. ”Hot” just means enough to be attracted to, not an actress.

The stuff I’m asking can be controlled. Don’t cut your hair short, don’t be a slut, don’t be fat, don’t take vows and break them, don’t have a child, and be able to get pregnant easily. Is that hard to do?

The stuff women are asking, is something 84.5% of the US men do not have, and cannot get, Well, unless they break their legs or something.

Serious question: Am I asking too much? Should we be looking to have sex and commit to single mothers now? Divorced women? Fat women? Ugly women?
 

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We aren't its just a tiny sub section of undateable males and females that are still using swipe apps

All thats left on these apps now are women who think they deserve the earth and men who think they are "high value

Both of the gender archetypes on these apps tend to hate each other and that fact they have to use the app to find a mate which is where the outrageous standards start to come into play

When you mix in all of the gamification and manipulation the app operators use too generate revenue its not exactly difficult to know what's going to happen

Nobody with a health social life needs to be on these apps.

In the real world none of this nonsense rarely if ever applies

You see a woman you think is attractive and she either responds positively or you leave her too it

Theres none of this useless fake small talk messaging back and forth for weeks on end leading to nothing
 

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tall women aren't as desired as medium height or short women, so they are disproportionately represented on the apps, and they are on there to 1) hopefully find a tall dude who doesn't mind a tall chick and 2) take it out on dudes in general bc they're frustrated
This does happen but it's not the only thing happening. There are plenty of average height and below average height women demanding a 6'0"+ man.

I think men would be more understanding if it were above average height women (5'7"+) seeking 6'0"+ men. It's not like that.

I don’t remember height being talked about THAT much say pre-2010.

Height always mattered, but I don’t recall women being that hung up on a specific height e.g. >=6’ back in the day.
I reached my adult height of 5'10" at age 17 in 2000.

From 2000-2009 (ages 17-26), I don't remember my average range 5'10" height being as much of a big deal as it has been since circa 2010. In the 2000-2009 time period, average height wasn't that desirable. However, women as a whole didn't seem as fixated on height (specifically a 6'0" minimum) until they got more abundance from tech methods.
 

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The stuff women are asking, is something 84.5% of the US men do not have, and cannot get, Well, unless they break their legs or something
We've been through all this before https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...-the-dating-market.284303/page-2#post-3163084


And more than twice, hoss. Whinging over height is The Manosphere equivalent of chicks griping over their B cups, despite the existence of push up bras, socks, and boob jobs being far more economical today than was the case even during The 2000s
 

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Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Not hard to figure out, tall women aren't as desired as medium height or short women, so they are disproportionately represented on the apps, and they are on there to 1) hopefully find a tall dude who doesn't mind a tall chick and 2) take it out on dudes in general bc they're frustrated

If you're a shorter dude, go for latinas since they tend to be shorties themselves.
They also tend to be fatties. :rolleyes:
 

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"We" aren't obsessed with height, any more than "we" are fixated on subjects like The Great Replacement Theory, or exactly how many Louisianans The Axe Man Of New Orleans sent to that great jambalya bowl in the sky

Such topics are only foremost in the thoughts of the most vapid sliver of our species
I can't believe I didn't know of this until I had just read it. :eek:
 

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Women: " I only date tall, rich, blah blah blah".
Me: "cool story" lol

(Some) Women think their value is MUCH MUCH higher than it actually is. They perceive a bunch of men who only want to pin their legs behind their head as genuine interest. And it's not. These types of women typically have nothing else to offer except for 2 spread legs and aren't worth messing with.....
What do you think these will do when they find a guy who meets all these silly requirements? They will want more and ditch the guy because they see themselves as entitled and are greedy. They certainly are not happy in life and they should be avoided like the plague. They are chasing something that is not realistic and even if they sort of find it, it's not going to last very long.
They are seeking the top of the food chain while they are middle of the food chain at best.

On the flip side: we all have our preferences in who we choose to date. We dont check all the boxes for everyone we meet. And that's ok too.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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