spinaroonie
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... so much more than guys. What's the reason for it?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Why Do Girls Love Attention?
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Maxtro
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The same reason that men want sex more than women do...
nismo-4
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Maxtro and Ice882, you made valid points.
Girls love the thrill of being in control, and guys love this thrill too, but guys love when their ego gets a boost. Sometimes just a kiss on the cheek can do this, but it'll get deflated when the girl says you're just a friend of IHAB.
Think about strippers. They get attention all the time and they love it. Women can have sex anytime, anywhere and can get a man just as quick, and they know it.
The power of pu$$Y gentlemen. And the market value too.
Girls love the thrill of being in control, and guys love this thrill too, but guys love when their ego gets a boost. Sometimes just a kiss on the cheek can do this, but it'll get deflated when the girl says you're just a friend of IHAB.
Think about strippers. They get attention all the time and they love it. Women can have sex anytime, anywhere and can get a man just as quick, and they know it.
The power of pu$$Y gentlemen. And the market value too.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
PapiChulo
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horaholic said:
Amen to that. Quote of the day.
Bible_Belt
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Why Do Girls Love Attention?
For hundreds of thousands of years, the only wealth that a woman ever had came from the man she married. Male attention is the wealth of women. That's their currency, as well as how they rank themselves amongst each other. The idea of a woman not needing a man to support her is still a very new idea in comparison to our long history. Psychology has not yet adjusted.
For hundreds of thousands of years, the only wealth that a woman ever had came from the man she married. Male attention is the wealth of women. That's their currency, as well as how they rank themselves amongst each other. The idea of a woman not needing a man to support her is still a very new idea in comparison to our long history. Psychology has not yet adjusted.
hb
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daily life can get dull from time to time & like these guys said, don't you love feeling like a star? & truth be told girls value different things than guys, just look at what they value..
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Nismo, I don´t want to put you down. But you need some medical help, really. You go around here always the same talk, of ***** market value, and they have life so easy etc...Don´t you get tired?nismo-4 said:
Women don´t have the power, though it might seem that way in a forum where most guys have problems with women....
SandHawk
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Actually, women do have power most of the time. I see it all the time around me, dudes being slapped around by their girl because she has the p*ssy and most guys are too pathetic to walk out. One of the guys from my dancing school has a 16 year old girlfriend, and he is 25, and she's slapping his ass around. Another couple had the guy wait for the chick for 2 years while she f*cked around and all he did was wait for her. A good friend of mine is nothing more than a slave to his girl, running around the house all the time doing stuff for her. Another girl I know got proposed to after 6 weeks of being in a relationship, because the guy is afraid of being alone.JdelaSilviera said:
Most guys are not in control of a relationship, they'll do anything for a girl because they're afraid they get dumped.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Nino-Tk
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They love attention and although they might sometimes act as if they don't want any of it, deep down they are always craving for attention.
It could be due to insecurity... And also cuz they're more social naturally, and talk more etc.
I just wanted to put that into the table, I don't know why tho... But VERY interresting question!
Also, girls evolved to be attractive, men not... Girls are the attractive sex psysiclly... I read that somewhere, it talked about the facial differences, men evolved to be more intimidating, dunno, does anyone understand what im talking about? I can try and find the link... Women evolved to be more pretty, basiclly. Maybe that's related.
I just wanted to put that into the table, I don't know why tho... But VERY interresting question!
Also, girls evolved to be attractive, men not... Girls are the attractive sex psysiclly... I read that somewhere, it talked about the facial differences, men evolved to be more intimidating, dunno, does anyone understand what im talking about? I can try and find the link... Women evolved to be more pretty, basiclly. Maybe that's related.
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comic_relief
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guys love attention just as much.
If I don't have attention given to me, I get bored of the group and walk to another group. Its natural to want to be either talked about or noticed.
women having the power? A good amount of power is given to girls by many guys. A thing that i had to learn was how to frame a relationship. I am still doing it on a consistent basis.
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If I don't have attention given to me, I get bored of the group and walk to another group. Its natural to want to be either talked about or noticed.
women having the power? A good amount of power is given to girls by many guys. A thing that i had to learn was how to frame a relationship. I am still doing it on a consistent basis.
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spinaroonie
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Women seek attention far more than men . Certainly it feels good to have ones ego stroked (and much of our desire for sex arises from the validation), but I don't think guys go actively seeking attention the way girls do. Guys want attention to score with girls; girls just want attention for attention's sake.
It used to be that modesty was a prized virtue among women. I used to believe that this was a function of patriarchy, male-domination etc. Now I think it was a way to keep the innate attention-wh*ring ways of women in check - keep the b*tches in line. With the institutions of patriarchy dismantled, we're now seeing the base natures of women coming to the fore. The modern American GRRRL is anything but shy and modest. But let's face it - no guy wants an attention-wh*re.
But fundamentally, where does women's need for attention come from?
It used to be that modesty was a prized virtue among women. I used to believe that this was a function of patriarchy, male-domination etc. Now I think it was a way to keep the innate attention-wh*ring ways of women in check - keep the b*tches in line. With the institutions of patriarchy dismantled, we're now seeing the base natures of women coming to the fore. The modern American GRRRL is anything but shy and modest. But let's face it - no guy wants an attention-wh*re.
But fundamentally, where does women's need for attention come from?
Again i think your perception of the situation is flawed.
The patriarchy did not repress the base natures of women, it placed women in a position that best suited their base natures.
The attention of men is a woman's power. A man's power may be measured by his alpha status amongst other men and ability to spread genes, while a woman's power resides in her desirability.
An undesirable girl/a girl who cannot get attention of males, is the equivalent of a beta male. The attention is simply a measure of desirability of women. Your question was already answered anyway.
Bible_Belt said:
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
spinaroonie
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But women from patriarchal cultures don't attention-wh*re like girls here.
I had a buddy from Singapore who did an exchange here. He commented on how LOUD the girls here were. I always thought this was how drunk girls acted, but later realized it was something I'd simply accepted since this was my reality. His remark did jolt me for a bit.
I had a buddy from Singapore who did an exchange here. He commented on how LOUD the girls here were. I always thought this was how drunk girls acted, but later realized it was something I'd simply accepted since this was my reality. His remark did jolt me for a bit.
Atom Smasher
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Because they have the mentality of children. "Look at me! Look at me!!"
Kailex
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Why do guys like boobs?
It's useless to try to decipher the "WHY", but it's useful to understand that it "just is", specially when it's concerning illogical and emotional creatures like women.
It's useless to try to decipher the "WHY", but it's useful to understand that it "just is", specially when it's concerning illogical and emotional creatures like women.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.