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I would def. suggest getting some sort of gig or something, as that is a sign of value.

Dude, you can create high value off of anything, even if it's stupid. I'm a policy debater, and I'm not even that good, but I've created value just by talking really, really fast... If I can do that, you can easily demonstrate HV w/ track or music (both of which are much more acceptable as...

Okay, I've got a question. Why are you opening with the whole "nature type of girl" thing? Personally, I don't think it's a good idea, for two reasons. 1. If the girl isn't a tree-hugger, then she'll be sort of weirded-out by it, and you'll have sort of used your one chance to make a first...

Why is too much rapport bad? Does it kill the element of mystery, or something?

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aussie...fair enough...I personally don't have quite as many qualms...although I think it's wrong to break up a marriage/engagement/really long-term relationship, most HS relationships are transitory anyway... That said, I'm probably not going to pursue it assiduously...they're both pretty...

Tell "your friend" to not go for it. From what I've seen, older girls in HS love to shower freshmen w/ attention because "they're cute." Not the good sort of cute, but the bad sort of cute. The, "you're totally non-threatening because you're younger, smaller, and couldn't possibly be sexual"...

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Which was undoubtedly the effect she was going for... It's just a shyt test, my man.

I'd say that your gut is prob. right...I mean, you can keep pursuing her if you're interested, but def. start looking for other targets, because this is not a very good proposition...but hey, think of it as practice, if nothing else.

Thanks, guys. Actually, I'm not that concerned about the whole bf thing. My plan has been to try to succeed be being more on the sidelines, so that as she and the bf talk all the time and his excitement and mystery are stripped away, I emerge as the more interesting alternative. Well, my...

You should immediately start reading the DJ Bible...start off with the introduction, then read some of Pook's stuff---esp. "15 Lessons" and "Be a Man" and "Kill that Desperation"...it's gold. In terms of conversation, read around in the conversation section of the bible. Under sense of...

Don't worry about it too much...I mean, I guess I would avoid something that pisses her off, but it doesn't sound like she was terribly upset...else she wouldn't have sounded joky (not sure that's a word, but it's the closest to an adverb form of joking I can get). But, and I can't stress...

So, I wound up going to prom last night with a wonderful girl who is, unfortunately, the gf of a guy I know (I had asked her to prom before he asked her out, but then he didn't want to go to prom, so we went anyway). We had a great time---I had her laughing and kinoing me a lot, although we...

Yeah...guess that was a bit of an obvious question...and yeah, I am doing all of that stuff pretty well...unfortunately I don't get a lot of chances to kino, but I take 'em when I can...I'll just do the normal stuff and see what happens.

Right...so, what is the best way to create that sort of gut level attraction in a case like this...right now, I'm de facto playing hard to get, but only until my week from hell (AP testing) is over... Although I've been noticing less interest the couple times I passed her today, and so I...

Hey guys, thanks for your input. Basically, the tactic I've been taking was summed up well in Microphone Fiend's post, in terms of my attitude. We haven't talked much this week cause everybody's busy doing AP exams and stuff, so I haven't had the opportunity to act AFCish, even if I wanted to...

And what, pray tell, is a bf destroyer pattern?

Give us some background, man.

Action dates...that's the way to go, for so many reasons... Stuff like minigolf, bowling, rock climbing---it's action stuff, which is where men tend to excel (except not me; I'm an effete intellectual ;) ), and there's all sorts of ways to kino.