"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Former CIA spy talking about how to charm anyone quickly

BillyPilgrim

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Thoughts with no actions, is futile.

I can think about losing 20 pounds, but if I'm not putting in the work, the pounds will remain.



She is a stranger.

Why would you (more likely than not) spend money on a stranger of a woman?



It's Mode 2.

And beta.
The work in is seducing her through words and pictures (and optionally voice). There's no money spent if she invites you straight over, moreover, she's the one usually spending money on the wine you're drinking before you smash.

It's not beta if you smash for 3 hours straight lmao.

Do what works for you. I quoted your post for general education purposes. Readers can select whatever method works best for them at whatever level they are at.
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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We_ArE_VeNOM

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The work in is seducing her through words and pictures (and optionally voice). There's no money spent if she invites you straight over
Not so fast.

You said..

"And you can smash at the end of the date (or during the date if she invites you straight over) or on date 2".


In your scenario..

1. Date first.
2. Maybe smash later.

or..

1. Second date.
2. Maybe smash later.


My scenario...

1. Sexual contact first.
2. Date later.

See the difference?

moreover, she's the one usually spending money on the wine you're drinking before you smash.
I'll believe it when I see it.

Most of you guys are just so happy to be on a date with a woman that you'll pay for dinner, drinks, Broadway show, band, juggling magician, mime show, hot balloon ride, and pony ride at the park.

It's not beta if you smash for 3 hours straight lmao.
That's a big if.

Do what works for you. I quoted your post for general education purposes. Readers can select whatever method works best for them at whatever level they are at.
Mode One (X) works best.
 
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