"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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The Dating Market Explained

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I don't really like posting videos, but I thought this one was interesting.
It talks about why men have it tough in the dating market (seems mainly because of their preferences for younger women).

But wow, sounds like older women are the ones who really have it rough, they seem left out almost entirely. Being an older man myself, I do know older women who are dating (most are dating older men). But I also know older women who seem to have given up, or just have no interest in dating.

Everything in life is supply & demand, and once one outstrips the other, the market goes haywire. Young men having a difficult time trying to get young, childless women are in the same spot as older women trying to get older men. It's the balance of life.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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More women being in relationships and less women being single isn't surprising. The fact there's more single men isn't surprising. The lesbian thing I didn't think of, but I wouldn't be surprised if more women shared guys than the other way around.
YouTube philosopher Aaron Clarey had a video where he questioned whether women genuinely like men that much:


This had gotten the Evolutionist in me to deduce that, indeed, Clarey's insight is accurate, and that it has only been the social memes of patriarchy & monogamy that have "kept women in line" such that women whose instinctual desire would be to not have a Normie husband ended up having such a Normie husband. Of course, the women of today that are rejecting the Normie men but also not getting knocked up by Chad will have their genes erased from the gene pool, so there will less of a problem in the future (the beauty of Evolution is that it always works in the end).
 

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Everything in life is supply & demand, and once one outstrips the other, the market goes haywire. Young men having a difficult time trying to get young, childless women are in the same spot as older women trying to get older men. It's the balance of life.
I wouldn't say young men are in quite as dire a situation as older women. A young man is virile and healthy (usually) and may yet mature into a more valuable male. Proximity alone can often result in some sexual gratification for young males. An older woman has no more hope of bearing children, she's on the downhill slide.
 

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I do think RP gurus (who tend to be older guys) sometimes unfairly crap on younger men as a cope.

“When you’re young, you don’t have value. You haven’t earned your value until your 40s…”

Young, attractive and virile is a form of value last time I checked. It’s a different kind of value than that of a mature, established man. But the “They don’t have value yet” never sat right with me, even as an older guy myself. And it’s a really odd way to try to attract younger followers by initially telling them they are worthless lol. Unless they are setting up the “problem” before they sell the “solution” (their course.).

Part of the problem is the blurring of the line between purely sexual (ONS/STR) market value and dating (LTR) market value. When we mix the two and just call it “value,” it gets messy.
 
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Young, attractive and virile is a form of value last time I checked. It’s a different kind of value than that of a mature, established man. But the “They don’t have value yet” never sat right with me, even as an older guy myself. And it’s a really odd way to try to attract younger followers by initially telling them they are worthless lol..
They certainly are not worthless, and they definitely have value. Most girls would like to date guys their own age (or slightly older). These are the guys in their social circles, that they grow up with, that they have a lot in common with, that are close by logistically. There is a built in intimacy in that. But for the young guys who don't do well, they can take comfort in knowing that they can increase their value, and might do better a little later in life as they increase their maturity, independence, skills, confidence, love making skills, etc. All things that matter. And I'll include "game" in that, even though I really don't like the term.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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And I'll include "game" in that, even though I really don't like the term.
I'm curious, why don't you like the term "game"?
 

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I'm curious, why don't you like the term "game"?
It just sounds like you're being dishonest, like it's all a lie to manipulate each other. That's not the way I prefer to look at it. I'm not really interested in playing games, to me it's just life.
 
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