Cheeky_James
Master Don Juan
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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Why not clean shaven? It'd take ten years off you.Dis is me with an AI comic book filter on a selfie pic
I have pretty good bone structure and ratios
(The filter is making me more handsome btw and removes the wrinkles and crows feet )
But I’m on the short side at 5’10” and slim framed/small shoulders.
Got a bit of a Dad Bod these days in my 40s.
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nah, a beard makes my jaw look bigger and squarer.Why not clean shaven? It'd take ten years off you.
I've got the grey in the beard too, around the chin, so I clean shave (fresh Mach3 blade every time) every four days. Grey is only really slightly visible on the fourth day in the right light.nah, a beard makes my jaw look bigger and squarer.
Plus I have a bit of turkey neck going on now as I age. I dye my beard tho, looks alright..
“maybe he’s born with it? Maybe it’s Just For Men…”![]()
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Don't forget your next line - "the lotion goes in the basket"This is my example of my sexualised texting.
I’m quite happy with this spin on her hinge relationship prompt of “working on my relationship goals”
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If she buys into that (which some do v much) then I just escalate w worlds and try turn her on more and more .
this can work pretty well ..and turn into a big romance novel/ fvck book role play.
Occasionally some women get mad arousedand will be down to come to my place and make the fantasy happen.
kinda a speed seduction approach w lots of descriptive sensual lingo. It can take a while tho and a bit time consuming.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
What is the shotgun theory?@Cheeky_James , If this is working for you, even if it's 1 out of every 10 women, then stick to it.
It's just the old shotgun theory but taken to the next level with today's app-driven dating market. We used to do this with Myspace and Bebo years back. Just remember, it can become tiresome with all the interactions that go nowhere. But if you're in a large enough city, it shouldn't matter.
These days I rely more on my social status and retired sporting status. I do have a Lagoon 410 in my App profiles and on Facebook, which gets me plenty of women wanting to look cool on a boat !!!
p.s Maybe I'm getting old but what is geomaxxing ?
Do you not think all this manipulation has been tried before, and this is what's leading to overall crapness of the apps due to lack of trust?I do wonder about this Chadfishing /catfishing stuff
Like, if I tried dis strategy
(a) I catfished w my app profile, (to a degree but not completely )
Ie making myself a bit more handsome +buffer body in my pics, maybe added a tattoo or 2 (with software) and also stated I was 6 foot + tall..
So an 8-9/10 guy.
and then upon matching
(b) ran great sexualised flirting game/ sexual role
Play game to get the chick REALLY mentally and physically aroused…’dripping wet ‘ shall we say
Then if I got her over to my place … and then she opens the door and meets the real CJ…(the 7/10 CJ)
What are the odds she’ll still proceed to fvck me???
I mean she already made the mental effort and the physical effort to get there right? , and is super wet n horny..and has sexual fantasies playing in her head…she’s revving and good to go…
I reckon a good chance ?!
(Note to self : Must try this experiment)
what is the AI stuff ? Men are using AI generated gamey text messages ?Do you not think all this manipulation has been tried before, and this is what's leading to overall crapness of the apps due to lack of trust?
It's all been gamed already. AI text responses being used now as well.
You need to be everythingmaxxing rather than resorting to these tricks.
Two things...what is the AI stuff ? Men are using AI generated gamey text messages ?
well. There is some scope for it to work I think.
I pretty much do it currently albeit only slightly, on much a lower level. (I knock a few years off my age and use filtered pics)
Re the trust thing- tbh mate the % of relationships happening from apps is a much smaller slice of the pie.
And if the girls are looking for that , I’ll fail at step (b) tryna get sexual Yknow?
everythingmaxxing is valid strategy sure .
But even hard gym maxxing gains a guy about 0.5 of a point.
As the BP guys say “ there is no gym for face and height”. Which is true. Brutal but true
I’m mainly looking for hookups and ongoing casual/ FwB situations.. not traditional dating leading to relationships/life partners..
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Lots of people can be cool behind a screen with AI assistance and a minute to think of a nice line.yeah, fair points
if you ask me, apps became crap mainly because plenty of of guys are uncalibrated and weird
well this is the other strategy.Best strategy is to have a couple of funny exchanges then invite her to grab a drink in a neutral place then you sexualize things face to face rather than through texts
sexualizing too early might yield results from time to time but mainly from girls you do not really want to actually meet. To me is a really bad strategy
The chance of at least a decent looking girl getting horny through some texts on a app are extremely slim, so you will just loose a lot of opportunities out of laziness / fixation
text game should be only used for logistics and lighting up the mood early on, anything else becomes more and more uncalibrated
check out this video analysis .Two things...
I worry if you're playing these deliberate "falsifying" games it'll ultimately be your own mind that is played with over time.
And "gym" isn't just about the packing on muscle, but getting naturally down to 12% body fat or so. No huge steroid head/gut/acne...just lean and healthy... this will definitely improve your face.
re the ch1ck - I feel it was probably height. And definitely money. She was very well dressed and had high disposable income , loves to travel and is a good lifer. It could have been “game” but … nah idk. It went 2 hours. Maybe she caught the vibe things didn’t stack up w me or something. Prob could tell I don’t have her level of cash.Well, you will always have a chance to be hit with the line “ I did not feel the chemistry “
the main reason for that happening is that she actually she is not opened to meeting new people but likes the attention she gets. It might be the reason that she actually is split between wanting to meet new people but she is equally afraid of what that means, or there is another guy that she is emotionally invested in, etc. Or you just f8cked it up
if you play the hand that you are dealt as best as possible, playing the long game you will get plenty of solid opportunities
1-2k per quarter spent on dates, is not that much money
Nah I did try escalate w that 2h chick but she closed her body language. It was something else . Just low physical attraction I’d say simply.if the girl stayed with you for 2h most likely the issue was that the opportunity window was opened but you did not seized the chance to push things forward
Same thing with the other girl, she gave you the opportunity for things to happen then you were unlucky and the opportunity window has closed mainly because she started thinking that most likely you think she is a sl8t for wanting to sleep with you for the first time on the backseat of your car and then tried to work on the appearance by dragging you on
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.